What set-up did you use? I want to install a remote filter for a few reasons, one to make it easy to change, two so I can use bigger filter. To me the recommended ones are too small for filtering 7 quarts all the time.

 

I can fill the filter to at least 3/4 full on my truck and usually don't spill a drop. Same usually goes for the wifles car, it is 100% horizontal. As long as you don't fill it to the brim the filter holds most of the oil in... you just need to be fast when you tip it.

 

To the original poster:
If your oil change is with heavier oil, change to 5w20 and the pressure will come up faster, that's why 5w20 is speced for the motor.
It may not now fix anything but should help.
Another device that could be the solution, if it is cam drive related, is an external oil accumulator to pressurize the system before starting.
Few motors ever need this kind of device but once it is id'ed as the fault, it may pay to look into it.

 

I have a 2004 with the extended warranty and the engine will make some noise at startup, especially when cold. What can I tell the Service Dept. that would trigger them to do the work? Right now they say they can't duplicate the problem.

 

Yes, it's an aftermarket set-up. (but god please don't tell the guys over in the oil thread I'm running a non-Motorcraft filter that's not even the one to fit this truck ) It is not a kit. Perma-Cool and Summit (probably some others) make "ready to go" kits, but I personally think they're cheap in comparison. I made my kit myself and pieced it together. The filter base is from Peterson Fluid Systems (they make top end dry sump oil systems/pumps/components...$$$$$$$$) and the lines are all -10 Earls braided line with -10 AN fittings everywhere.

Reasons...Cooling (although minimal) from the filter being off the engine and in the air flow. Increased quantity by almost a quart due to the size of the filter and the lines. Better filtration from the size of the filter. And easy maintenance. Completely trouble free/mess free filter changes. Plus it just dang looks cool

There's more pictures of it in my gallery.

 

Yes, tell them when you start it in the AM that it sounds like a rod knock for a few seconds then goes away. Also tell them that when sitting at a light in gear you hear a faint knock as well. You may have to leave it over night for them to duplicate the concern, you could even toss the "cam phaser" term around to lead them in the right direction if their clueless. If it happens everytime for you but not when they have it over night you know they're BSing you and dont want to fix it. Then you'll have to take it elsewhere. Either way its covered and at most it'll cost you the $100 deductable on your ESP contract.

 

Why do you have it easier to get to ? You only change your oil every 25K Just messin with yuh

That is a sweet set up , purdy too- Mines sort of the same way - but horizontal, try filling that one before installing.. -

 

Ahh yea JB, is that the stock one?? Still nice isn't it!! I have remote filters on every vehicle I've ever owned almost. I want to put one on my wifes Lexus (it's a messy PITA) but can't find a base adapter to spin on the filter pad.

Did you see that other comment I made??

P.S. For the record, and since we're not over there in that "other" thread, I go 7,500. Yes I use and firmly believe in my Amsoil products, but I did grow up old school and some habits are just damn hard to break. I'm trying to stretch it out to 10,000, but even if I do that, that'll be it. Gonna get some Blackstone lab work done probably just for ****s and giggles

 

As for relevance to this thread, my '02 knocks a very little on a cold start up, and rattles pretty good for a few minutes when it's been sitting a long time. I remember discussions a long time ago in our trucks that it was a rod making some noise. Too bad it's tough to do noises over the forum!! That would help out a lot. I'd like to have my knock addressed but she's not under warranty and if I recall, guys with the pre-'04 rod knock weren't really having any detrimental failures, just the annoying noise.

you guys remember any of that?? Just curious if it relates to the '04's in any way.

 

Thought that was "Piston Slap" ? Oh and yes , remotes are nice - I changed an 01 model out last - damn thing had me cusin in no time.. Stupid stupid stupid!! Why did Ford change the local!!????

My kids changing her oil as I post - hers is a 4.2L and it's at the bottom as well - but it's allot easier than that 01 5.4L.

 

That's it!! Yep!!

 

I managed to escape that problem. My 98 motor didn't have it - neither does the 98 ford Reman that was put in fall of 2000..The 4.2L doesn't and the 01 (not mine) hasn't had it either (40,000 miles)..

I know it's a common problem from the posts here, never come across it yet tho.

 

i want to know why you go to Valvoline and let some kid work on you truck?