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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Sorry guys-outta luck-I get company discount (I work at summit racing equipment) and im not aloud to hook anybody up, im only aloud to get parts for me-and yes they track what you buy-and I have a limit on how much discount I can spend-so i cant hook anybody up
darnit. It was worth a shot.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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hey do you guys price match at summit
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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If your intent is to pull another truck in the worst case as dead weight, you need a wench that will pull at max rated 5000 to 6000 lbs +.
Look at the wenchs and see what it takes.
At least $500 for one in that capacity range.
They have solenoids rated for 500 amps.
Does that give you a feel for how much battery power you might need?
No use in all this guessing. Look at it and see what you need for all parts and needs of a proper installation.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cletusjermal
Is this what i need for the dual battery setup.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
That would work but what I was thinking of is this


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...9&classNum=297

It allows you to switchfrom one battery to the other and it allows you to run off of both batteries at the same time if needed.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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i install and maintain dc electrical systems in emergency equipment (fire and ambulance)
your best bet is to max out- dual battery system and hd alt(130 amp)

no need for any isolators or battery switchs just run both batteries in parallel NOT SERIES - series will increase voltage parallel will increase amprage (CCA)

install plastic battery boxs in truck bed and run 3/0 welding cable (it's more flexable) along frame be sure to insulate any holes so they don't chafe cables
 
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cletusjermal
hey do you guys price match at summit
I work in operations/ maintnance dept. not retail-sorry cant honestly answer your question. best to call them and ask
 
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Yes there is other good brand batteries-I chose optima yellow top because of being deep cycle holds more juice longer.
Deep cycle batteries allow you to draw them down lower and more often but they do not "hold juice longer"
 
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Ya all want to watch thinking deep cycles have some better magic quality.
A 'STARTER' battey has plates designed to convert chemical action to high electric current drains at a rapid rate and also recharge at a faster rate.
Deep cycles are not built to do the same. These are more for lower drains over a much longer time intervals. The difference is how the plate structure is designed and on what substrate material is used.
Obviously, starting is a short term event that requires a lot of power be outputted in a short time. Deep cycles don't fit this discription.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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A few winching facts. A 9000 lbs winch cannot pull 9000 lbs unless it is on the last wrap of the drum. As you add wraps the capacity decreases. When you are stuck in the mud the friction of the mud will add to the weight requirement. As a general rule 1½ times the weight of your truck is the minimum that you need. I added to that and got an XD9000i. I have had situations where I had to double up the cable to increase the pull capacity. With only 50 feet of cable payed out I cannot pull 9000 lbs.

The battery is what is used to power the winch. The alternator only prolongs the length of time the battery will last. The more amps your alternator supplies the longer you can winch. My winch draws 460 amps at 9000 lbs. Or 460 amps with 5 wraps on the drum pulling 6000 lbs.
The reserve capacity of the battery will tell you how long you can winch. Warn recommends a minimum of a 650 CCA for the XD9000i. So go out and find a battery with the longest reserve capacity with at least 650 CCA. A deep cycle battery will not provide power for a longer time because it is a deep cycle battery. It has a longer life span. It will survive more discharges than a starting battery because the plates are thicker. FYI in the Optima line while the red tops have a higher CCA over their yellow top equivalent they have a lower Reserve Capacity and Amp Hour rating. My truck has a 200 amp alternator and a Yellow Top.

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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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hey JMC
you make it sound like the tundra[climate zone} is thawing out up there

are you in forrestry or is this for fun?

200 amp alt. don't tell the guys with the soundsystems
i don't want them any louder
 
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
hey JMC
you make it sound like the tundra[climate zone} is thawing out up there

are you in forrestry or is this for fun?

200 amp alt. don't tell the guys with the soundsystems
i don't want them any louder
My Igloo is melting, my Igloo is melting! Me, a lumber jack? Trees are for shade. The truck is my DD and toy.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrass
Ya all want to watch thinking deep cycles have some better magic quality.
A 'STARTER' battey has plates designed to convert chemical action to high electric current drains at a rapid rate and also recharge at a faster rate.
Deep cycles are not built to do the same. These are more for lower drains over a much longer time intervals. The difference is how the plate structure is designed and on what substrate material is used.
Obviously, starting is a short term event that requires a lot of power be outputted in a short time. Deep cycles don't fit this discription.
See-I do actually learn something new everyday
 
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