I was surprised that Troyer was unaware that in Dallas/Fort worth, gas contained up to 10% ethanol. It was important to note that for the custom tune. I told them there was no way that I could have access to straight gas. The 10% ethanol is added to cut smog reduction. My question is does everyone know this? IMO, I think it is for larger Cities. Just an FYI for those who may not know.

 

up here in bum F_ck Saskatchewan Canada we have UP to 10% in the 87 and 89 and I haven't had a problem with it yet

 

Yeah, I havent had a problem it. I was just wondering if some were unaware. The ethanol is going to lower my power gains with my new tune. Damn environmentalists.

 

says it on every pump I use.

 

Every pump here in Houston has it, seems like its been this way for a while too.... Maybe a year or so

 

10% Ethanol is nearly universal now. The ethanol replaces the mtbe that was poisoning the water tables everywhere.

 

10% is everywhere here in the Midwest. It's with our 89, but not 87...

 

so TP was unaware of this? does this mean my tunes are off? Is this why I sometimes get a knock under heavy acceleration? I guess I'll be calling Mike today or early next week. I needed to call anyway.

 

Missouri has mandated E10 starting the first of the year. Many stations have already switched over.

 

If you data logged for the tunes using these fuels, it should heve shown up and been the basis of some of the tuning parameters.

 

I have been lazy. haven't data logged yet. Maybe I should do that before I call.

 

No, I am sure he is well aware of it. I doubt the 10% will behave much differently than the MTBE that it replaced. Call him to be sure.

 

all in hawaii as well.

 

http://www.energy.ca.gov/ethanol/index.html
http://www.energy.ca.gov/afvs/docume...ANOL_CARFG.PDF



ETHANOL As a Transportation Fuel In California
As of January 1, 2004, California completed a transition from methyl tertiary butyl-ether (MTBE) to ethanol as a gasoline oxygenate additive. With most gasoline sold in the state presently containing 5.7 percent ethanol, California is now the largest ethanol fuel market in the United States. About one billion gallons of ethanol are expected to be used in the state's gasoline supply in 2004.

The Energy Commission continues to study the potential for ethanol fuel production and use as part of California's overall strategy to assure adequate transportation energy supplies and reduce dependence on petroleum. In addition to its use as a gasoline blending component, ethanol can also be used as E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) in flexible fuel vehicles being produced by automakers.

Most of California's current ethanol supply comes from the Midwest U.S. corn-based industry, with a small supply contribution from foreign imports. There are only two small producers of ethanol in California today; however, a number of projects for expanded in state ethanol production are under consideration.

For Fuel Ethanol Price Graphs, please go to:


Last 18 Months http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/gr..._18-month.html
Last 10 Years http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/gr...l_10-year.html
Gasoline Components Prices http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/gr...nt_prices.html

For more information about ethanol please contact:


Emerging Fuels & Technology Office
Fuels and Transportation Division
California Energy Commission
1516 Ninth Street, MS-44
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-654-4628



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ETHANOL (also know has Ethyl Alcohol or Grain Alcohol, chemical formula CH3CH2OH) is a liquid produced mostly via fermentation and distillation processes from sugar and starch crop feedstock. Advanced processes for producing ethanol from agricultural, forestry and municipal wastes and residues are under development. Ethanol has been used in the U.S. as a gasoline octane enhancer and oxygenate since the 1970s when federal energy tax policy was enacted to encourage domestic production and use of this fuel.

 

yep thats correct.