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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Hello,

I have a 2001, 4.6 L with about 83,000 miles. The engine check light came on. I went to Checker and had the codes checked and it came up with the EGR valve several times. I replaced the EGR and the light is still on. The Haynes manual states that it may take 40 warm starts to reset the light but I have had the new part on for maybe one month. I checked the PCV valve and it seems fine.

Any other things I am missing?

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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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What are the exact codes? The exact numbers, not as interpreted by the parts store......
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 03:06 AM
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Yup, you need to get the numbers in order for anyone to know what your talking about exactly.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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I can guarantee that:

1) It was a P0401 code

2) It was mis-diagnosed

3) It ain't fixed

P0401 is one of the most common faults discussed here. Five minutes of reSEARCHing should be enough to get you on track.

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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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99% of the time, the check engine light comes on in Ford & Mazda trucks for code P0401 (insufficient EGR flow). And, 99% of the time, the EGR valve is good. The two main culprits are (1) The DPFE sensor (2) The EGR ports in the intake elbo are clogged.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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I don't know about 99% of the time - I would say most of time it is a 401 code.
I've gotten 402, 406 before .
It's easy enough to go get the numbers to be sure , I would do that before replacing the DPFE or taking your TB and elbow apart - could be the EGR popet valve.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Egr

Yes the 401 code does seem familiar. I had it checked several times over the last 6 months. I already checked the egr ports in the intake elbo and cleaned them out even though they did not look clogged to me.

I don't know where the DPFE sensor is located or the EGR popet valve.

Thanks for the help and addiiotnal information would be appreciated.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dougs2002
Yes the 401 code does seem familiar. I had it checked several times over the last 6 months. I already checked the egr ports in the intake elbo and cleaned them out even though they did not look clogged to me.

I don't know where the DPFE sensor is located or the EGR popet valve.

Thanks for the help and addiiotnal information would be appreciated.


If you have the 401 code - then replace the DPFE Sensor

Ford updated these recently , unfortunatly the updated version can only be had at the dealerships. Third party auto suppliers don't carry the updated versions yet as far as I know .

#4 is the DPFE sensor..




Parts
. OEM Part
. Price
Pressure Feedback Exhaust Sensor
.
. Pressure Feedback Sensor
. F77Z9J460AB
. $112.47
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Labor
. Skill
Level
. Mfg.
Warr.
. Std.
Pressure Feedback Exhaust Sensor
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. Replace
. B
. 0.1
. 0.3
Notes
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. Does Not Include: EEC Quick Test Or Pin Point Test Diagnosis Time.

 

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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psssh egr is ghey....
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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I've been getting the same 401 code on my 02 4.6. I cleaned the inlets in the intake manifold/throttle body. Thought that would do the trick but it came back with the same code. I followed the directions in the Hayne's book and checked the DPFE sensor and EVR regulator voltages, and they were all normal. The DPFE sensor is in a different location on my truck, it's right on top of the EGR tube, and is a lot smaller than yall's picture.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Is it black?
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Here's a pic of it...
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Wow !! That's different!! Never seen one of those before..

I like it tho , better than that big gaudy thing that I have. I had to go look at the 01 in the driveway just now to see if it had one like that

Nope.

Is that stock?
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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As far as I know that's the stock piece. The truck was originally bought new by the company my dad works for to be used as a daily driver, for a big shot to just drive around in. They sell the vehicles when they reach a certain mileage, this one is pushin 150k, and so my dad bought it. I don't think that the company would put anything aftermarket on the truck, with the exception of strobe/service lights. That's not the new sensor from Ford is it? It's a genuine Ford sensor.

I just checked advance auto parts website and this is what I found....

EGR Pressure Feedback Actuator....Is that the same thing as the DPFE?
 

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Also when I checked the voltage on the TPS, Hayne's said that it should read between .5 to 1v at closed throttle and increase to between 4 and 5v at WOT. That was just not the case on mine. It read 4.5v at closed and steadily decreased as I opened the throttle. I had everything hooked up like the book said, but that just doesn't seem right. Perhaps the TPS is the problem cause the 401 code. What do yall think?
 
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