I LOVE how people buy into the semantics that Toyota used to dish the blame on their "supplier" as to say it wasn't their fault, oh wow

You do realize just about everything on every car is outsourced to some extent, but you still count it as the brand of the company making the car....that is, unless you're Toyota and need to find a scapegoat.

And don't think for a single second that Toyota is "Covering it" out of the love for their customers, they are doing it because they are trying to nip it in the butt before it becomes a well-known problem that would harm their SALES. And of course they are going to go out and replace the motors now, they've only sold 37k trucks, and not even all of them are with the 5.7; big deal if they swap them now! It's a FOR PROFIT move, not a "customer appreciation" move.

Every company does a pro and con analysis with situations like this, they weigh the costs of each option, and choose whatever makes the most BUSINESS sense to do. It;s a no brainer for them to move ASAP rather than selling more trucks and letting news of the failure spread even further. That's it.

 

I am fully capible of putting in a timesert thing, no biggie to me. My truck is 5 years old and if I would have never found this site I wouldn't have known about the spark plug thing, no one I know has had a problem with them. I can't help but wonder if it isn't quite such a big deal as some would like it to be.

 

Buying into semantics, no, Toyota can blame Canada for all I care, at least consumers affected are being looked after.

Hmmm, sounds like the 6.0L powerstroke soap opera again.

I could care less if Toyota is doing it out of love or hate or whatever. All I would care about is getting the truck you just paid alot of money for fixed with little or no additional cost.


IMO some manufacturers are doing a way better job at this then others...

 

I know if i had the smaller v8 option, i would try and get my engine replaced to the 5.7 for free

 

I work in the automotive industry. I can assure you that even though to the public the calendar time seems small for the new Tundra, Toyota has many thousands of miles on their test vehicles and prototypes. I am an instrumentation engineer for test vehicles, not related to Toyota or Ford.

The used truck I just bought was a sad depiction of what is happening with Toyota and Ford. My 2003 one-owner truck was traded in for a new Tundra, I bought my truck from the Toyota dealer. Ford owners thus far have the highest rate of turn over to Tundra owners right now. Chevy is close behind and Dodge for some reason is low are far as brands changing to Toyotas.

Being Ford lovers here keep your eyes on the used lots at the local Toyota dealer and you can pick up a nice Ford.

 

yeh i never understood that.. if it aint broke done fix it... not to mention the new yota's get 16mpg highway!

 

Best be careful there... Just because the Ford is on a toyota lot doesn't mean it was traded in at that dealer. The dealers go to auctions and other means of getting desirable used vehicles to sell. So when you say that more Fords are being traded for toyotas... it probably isn't true.

 

Yeah, I would love to see his "Facts" backing up his post. I dont buy it for one second either

 

Actually, you SHOULD see more Fords at the Toyota lots as trades: Since the F150 outsells the other brands, more F150's will be traded, simply out of sheer numbers, than the other brands.

Of course, this assumes all brand owners consider trading at the same % levels...

 

After reading the first post, how does they "may" recall becomes they are and only Toyota does the right thing. I granted that if the first ones went to long on an oil change or had their oil change at jiffy lube, Toyota would of tried to get out of paying for those. Most rice burners require your oil changes and maintance be perform at the dealer or you have no warranty, period. Also, been told that their fuel mileage is bad, like around 13mpg empty.

 

The dealer can not force you to have them change the oil. They can only require that you show proof you did infact change the oil yourself or have someone else do it.

 

All i can say is The F-series truck the leading truck for over 20 years. There is more F-150's out on the road than chebs,rams,yoats,and honda(i guess)
so for those of you downgrading Ford Why did ya buy one

Im done here this place is tapped

 

It was in Automotive News, an industry trade magazine for dealers, manufacterers and folks in the R&D world of the car business. I read every issue and dont remember the month of the publication, but it was recent. Automotive News is a pretty straight shooter.

I am fully aware that dealers can get cars from auction. It would be uncharacteristic for a Toyota dealer to receive a Ford from an auction. More likely would be the other way around though both are entirely possilbe. Mine for sure was a one owner trade for a Tundra.

Point taken on the sales which may lead to number of trades. But I think the article was more of a measure of which brand loyalists were trading in their trucks to get Toyotas. Sad but true, Ford was on top. I am reporting the facts and I am not a Toyota man. I have owned many Fords and now own a 2003 F150 FX4 and a 1999 Cobra SVT.

Bob