I like that, still laughing. The 360 is a old school v-8, inefficient, but the Titan is a pig too from what I've been told, the f-150 has the best mileage of all three. A race is Titan, then f-150 (close) then 360 Dodge, in rear view somewhere. Ya, a Hemi is a different tale, 1st place there. I've raced a Dakota with the 5.9 and smoked every one with out a sweat. If they didn't spin tires all day and hooked, I still beat them huge. It's funny because today the truck felt good so I floored it a bit and was surprised how well she pulls. It just felt like I added a programmer vs times before. The old girl gets lively once in a while.

I'd still take a Dodge over a Nissan any day.

 

i owned 3 dakotas before my f150. they were all v6 though. 0-60 in about 15 minutes but they were reliable little trucks. i love the f150 size especially with the xtra cab.

 

I agree, my brother has a Titan...

I know this is off the subject, but how many races will you run during the life of your truck? None? 1? 5? 10?...I've been looking to test my mods for the last 4 months or so but haven't gotten the opportunity to race once...on the other hand, I've consistently gone to the gas station to put gas in it...

 

Dodge=poorly built truck that will start having problems if driven normally...at 80,000-100,000 miles. Think rotors, balljoints, steering parts, stuff like that. Nothing expensive but it all adds up. 5.9 isn't too bad, not much of a powerhouse, but they do their job. Don't expect much though.

Titan=better have a few spare rear ends laying around. They do run pretty good though, but I believe they are lighter than either the dodge or Ford. The body style is nasty though!

Ford=great trucks that won't fall apart at 50,000 miles like the titan or dodge. Engines aren't powerhouses, but the 5.4 is a torquey engine that will pull like a diesel. Wont pass many gas stations but it will pull a trailer very well. The truck is NICE...especially the '04-later trucks. They ride super smooth, quiet, and best of all, they're american made. Little more money, but its worth it to me.

Whats the first thing that comes to mine when someone mentions a dodge truck? Nissan titan? How bout ford trucks? Dodge....not bad, cheap(er), engine choices aren't great, balljoints fail, rotors fail, front ends rattle prematurely. Nissan=seem to run forever but not without lots of maintenance. Rear ends are failing at an alarming rate. Good power, but the rest of the truck is cheezy. Both nissan and Dodge are known for shoddy quality. Sometimes you get a good one that lasts 250k+ sometimes they don't make it to 250 miles and something's wrong. Chevy is the same way. At least Ford pickups don't have a reputation for being as shoddy as the rest of the competition. Might as well include Toyota....I think of transmission failures in toyota pickups. We have one at work. 35,000 miles and it's on it's 3rd transmission (tundra with a V6/auto). The 2 previous ones burned the trans fluid within a few thousand miles...which means something inside was burned as well. It doesnt' pull a load, other than an occasional tractor tire (less than 500 lbs). Also think of broken spindles and failing rear diffs.

You read about Ford's problems...yes, every manufacturer has problems. Thats going to happen reguardless when you build/sell a million plus trucks a year. Reason you read more about it here is obviously this is a Ford truck forum...so you only read about Ford truck problems. Go to a Nissan pickup forum. Chevy truck forum. Then to a Dodge and Toyota forum. They have problems too....and being that the japanese trucks are owned/managed overseas, that means parts prices are higher as well. Lots of people don't think about that part until something breaks, then they go nuts. I've been involved in all of the major manufacturers one way or another...for the last 13 years so I've seen a lot of issues.

 

No not truck a new engine. its supposed to be a 6.2 liter pushrod. I saw it in nloc.net a while back.but ford doesnt follow through everything it says

 

I agree I bought a truck that I thought would last many years without falling apart. I can fix it when it needs it but when the job is done I don't want to live in fear of what will be next weeks repair. If my 4.6L does avery job that I give it to do and last 250,000 miles like the other trucks I hear about. I'll drive it till its ready to go to the juckyard.
So if its a race to the juckyard I think my truck will lose that race. LOL

 

I considered both the Titan and F-150 and recently bought the Ford. In the end, I could not get past the fugly looks of that Titan. the only thing worse is maybe an Avalanche. I have owned exactly one Nissan truck before--I was the original owner and drove it 167,000 trouble-free miles. So, for me, i would not have a hard time being convinced that the Nissan would hold up.

I was brought up a Ford man by my Dad and really wanted to buy a Ford this time. I am hopeful it goes 11 years.

The other big thing for me was the wealth of after-market go-fast parts for the 5.4. I checked what you could get for the Nissan motor and it was not a lot. I have been reading the last few days here what people are using for superchargers, tuners, exhaust, and so on.

That is my intent, to make mine go a lot faster

 

THE BOSS.

 

hey a truck is for work. Thats why I only buy 8 foot beds and single cabs.. Ha ha j/k.

Ya my 5.4 is the smallest but I can beat the second best chevy contender the 5.3. and the older 5.9 of the dodge.

#1 thing I hate and would of been a big factor had I known about it. Spark plug replacement!! I haven't done it yet and I'm hoping to god I have no problems. But if I would of known about the problems many are having I honestly might not of bought a ford. Why go through the hassle. Even if its really a spark plug manufacturing problem its ultimatley a ford problem for using that type of plug. Also with some dealers trying to pass the costs off to the owners.. I don't even know what to say.

 

I got ya boss!

 

Now I don't know about your truck, but from what I've heard all F150's are assembeled in Canada? I'm not trying to say anything bad about F150's as I've been a Ford man for as long as I can remember. I'm not trying to argue or offend anyone either. I'm just stating what I've heard. As for a lot of the other vehicles like Toyota I believe they have plants here in the U.S. that pump out thier vehicles instead of manufacturing them overseas and shipping. I remember reading something about some of the foreing companys building plants here in the U.S. to build their vehicles.

 

Just bought a new 2006 Scab. I'm kinda sensitive about where vehicles are made (born and raised in Detroit). Mine's all Dearborn, MI, assembled at the Wixom plant.

As far as jap crap (sorry) being built in the U.S., the reason they do that is to avoid the tarriffs. They can import parts without penalty, but not assembled vehicles, so.........they slap up a plant in a non-union state, usually a southern state with a low cost-of-living rate, ship all the parts there and put'em together. Final Assembly plants. Try to find a U.S.-based out-sourcing (parts) factory like Delco, Visteon, Rockwell, Safelite, etc. that makes parts for imports.....good luck!

One thing that's often missed is where the manufacturer is based. When a Ford is sold, the net profit goes to FoMoCo, U.S.-based. When a Chevy is sold, regardless of what plants build it (Canada, Mexico), the net profit goes to GM, U.S.-based. Dodge is a litle different due to the agreement between Chrysler Corp. and Daimler-Benz, A.G. Net profits are shared between the U.S. and Germany. BUT, when a Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. is sold, the net profit all goes to Japan.

What REALLY pisses me off is all these people I know that won't even look at a Ford or Dodge truck because they "break down", are "junk", get crappy mileage, won't last, parts fall off, blah, blah, blah, then they go out and buy an overpriced, overrated Toyota. Nissan, or (gasp!) Honda. Where do these people get this crap? And rags like Autoweek, Car & Driver, and Consumer Reports don't help matters. All these people are concerned about is how many airbags can you deploy at one time, how many buttons the radio has, or how many stupid traction-navigation-anti-this-or-that gizmos you can screw on a vehicle. If I'm driving something and it starts to steer, accelerate or brake by itself, I'm jumpin' out and and hiring an exorcist! Automatic parking systems?....give me a break! All I got to say is bring on your Volvo coccoon-mobile and let me hit it with my F-150...let's see who wins. I don't need no stinkin' airbags, I got 6000lbs and two big'ol steel frame rails made in America.

Hey, it's free trade, and you pays your money and takes your pick. The unions certainly brought some of this on themselves, and I'd say that it's just good'ol competition, but as long as Japan keeps artificially manipulating the Yen and our trade system, the U.S. manufacturers are going to be behind the 8-ball.

Personally, I'll pay a little more for a good'ol All-American Ford.

 

My truck was made in Canada, but they haven't been made here since 2004. All 5.4 3v have been made in Canada. That's probably what you heard was the engines. The Oakville plant was assembling not too many the years prior, most by far come from the states. Canada builds great stuff anyways thanks, I am an assembler of the 5.4 as well, kinda proud of that. Too much politics and opinions about foreign vs domestic anyways. The North American governments have been weak in allowing trade to become sloppy and too gray area'd. Bottom line, if you want to sell here, you must build here, 1 for 1, bring back the Autopact. Never mind this free trade b/s. I'll say again, this global economy b/s is just that, a race to the bottom to build cheap, sell for more money, and sacrifice quality. Everyone wants something for nothing.

 

As of now, the Nissan Titan and Dodge Ram Hemi are very close in performance. The Chevy would be next, and the F150 5.4L dead last.

I'm not going to lie, after test driving my co-workers Titan, it made me think I left my emergency brake on my F150!

Being completely honest, considering I'm driving a heavy supercrew 4x4, even with the 5.4L, my truck is so slow it can't get out of its own way.

With everyone, Dodge, Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota coming up with big and powerful motors, Ford will need to up the ante. I expect the new generation F150 coming out soon to have a hotter engine, and a 6-speed automatic. That should even things out for us!

 

when it comes to heavy duty work trucks, toyota does not even compare to ford. ford f series best selling for 30 years. that speaks for itself. toyota is a weekend warrior truck, just my opinion. they do make good cars. i dont think anyone can argue that.