Turbo supercharger ???
I saw a turbosupercharger thing and it had like 250% power increase or something it was good but no company would sell it because after the 2nd run on the drag strip on the car the engine blew! lol
Turbo supercharger? I know that a turbocharger and supercharger are both forced induction, opperating in different ways with a similar end result, but what does a turbo supercharger do?
This seller might have some feed back that says he's got a good product. His write up tells me otherwise. I have a little expericance with positive displacement superchargers. You CANNOT get the gains of a real supercharger with a glorified hair dryer. He's claiming just over two pounds of boost? On most vehicles, especially our trucks, that wouldn't make a big difference even if he has found a way to actually accomplish it. On my '98 that had the 4.6 with a Magnacharger bolted on, I was running 9 lbs of boost. It made the truck much faster than stock but certianly not faster than everything on the road. My current '04 runs 8lbs of boost. Much different truck from the '98 but still not the fastest on the road.
I would be very cautious of electric "turbo superchargers".
This seller might have some feed back that says he's got a good product. His write up tells me otherwise. I have a little expericance with positive displacement superchargers. You CANNOT get the gains of a real supercharger with a glorified hair dryer. He's claiming just over two pounds of boost? On most vehicles, especially our trucks, that wouldn't make a big difference even if he has found a way to actually accomplish it. On my '98 that had the 4.6 with a Magnacharger bolted on, I was running 9 lbs of boost. It made the truck much faster than stock but certianly not faster than everything on the road. My current '04 runs 8lbs of boost. Much different truck from the '98 but still not the fastest on the road.
I would be very cautious of electric "turbo superchargers".
Originally Posted by KickinBlue4x4
once saw a video of a dyno test where they jammed a leaf blower into the air intake...Lmao There was the 15 H.p. increase too..
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Visteon developed these and found they're only feasible for 1.2L to 1.6L gasoline engines and 3.0L (and smaller) turbo diesel engines (must be used with standard turbo, mind you).
From the ad "Electric supercharger zero loss. Our lightweight yet powerful superchargers are capable of moving 39,000 qts. of air into your engine intake (about 120 cfm or 2.3 psi.) without wasting one bit of HP due to product weight or gear friction loss."
Zero loss is an absolute lie since the electricity is coming from the battery which is made up by the alternator which is powered by the engine. The HVAC blower motor in the F150 is capable of about 360 CFM and that's with a pressure of 2-4 psi due to the evaporator core.
If you had enough batteries to run the system for a long enough time before the alternator load gets increased (or just disconnect those batteries from the charging system during the "boosted" driving) on the engine, this thing is feasible for short distances.
Most engines can benefit from light supercharging (2-3psi), but it's cost prohibitive for the OEM's to offer it. (aka the customers are too cheap)
Since it has a 5 amp fuse, assuming 14V and an alternator with 90% efficiency, the minimum load on the engine is 0.1 hp which isn't bad as long as it's forcing enough air in to make up for that extra load.
If you want to make this yourself, go to a junkyard and get the blower scroll (it's the end were the blower motor attaches) from an F150 or F250 (I do believe the F250's system is larger) along with the fan (squirrel wheel) which is attached to the blower motor. You can use the HVAC blower motor, but an industrial type motor may be more efficient and powerful. Just make sure your intake pressure downstream of the throttle body doesn't go over 3psi. Oh yeah, wire up the system so it only comes on at WOT (switch on the floor under the gas pedal).
From the ad "Electric supercharger zero loss. Our lightweight yet powerful superchargers are capable of moving 39,000 qts. of air into your engine intake (about 120 cfm or 2.3 psi.) without wasting one bit of HP due to product weight or gear friction loss."
Zero loss is an absolute lie since the electricity is coming from the battery which is made up by the alternator which is powered by the engine. The HVAC blower motor in the F150 is capable of about 360 CFM and that's with a pressure of 2-4 psi due to the evaporator core.
If you had enough batteries to run the system for a long enough time before the alternator load gets increased (or just disconnect those batteries from the charging system during the "boosted" driving) on the engine, this thing is feasible for short distances.
Most engines can benefit from light supercharging (2-3psi), but it's cost prohibitive for the OEM's to offer it. (aka the customers are too cheap)
Since it has a 5 amp fuse, assuming 14V and an alternator with 90% efficiency, the minimum load on the engine is 0.1 hp which isn't bad as long as it's forcing enough air in to make up for that extra load.
If you want to make this yourself, go to a junkyard and get the blower scroll (it's the end were the blower motor attaches) from an F150 or F250 (I do believe the F250's system is larger) along with the fan (squirrel wheel) which is attached to the blower motor. You can use the HVAC blower motor, but an industrial type motor may be more efficient and powerful. Just make sure your intake pressure downstream of the throttle body doesn't go over 3psi. Oh yeah, wire up the system so it only comes on at WOT (switch on the floor under the gas pedal).
Originally Posted by KickinBlue4x4
once saw a video of a dyno test where they jammed a leaf blower into the air intake...Lmao There was the 15 H.p. increase too..


