Disconnecting CC Switch.
Disconnecting CC Switch.
Just got my recall notice in the mail for the Cruise control de-activation switch. I was just wondering, can I save some time and just un-plug that switch on the master cylinder myself rather than having the dealer do it? Then when they get the parts in, take it in for the new switch. Or will that cause problems?
Just curious cause i am going away tomorrow and if they cant get me into the dealership i will just un-plug it.
Thanks.
Just curious cause i am going away tomorrow and if they cant get me into the dealership i will just un-plug it.
Thanks.
we unplugged it ourselves on our 98 and 2001 and 2002 trucks and have had no problems. Havent taken them in for the fix yet. we then taped the end we unplugged and tied it up out of the way.
Supposedly my 2003 has the fix from the factory.
Dan.
Supposedly my 2003 has the fix from the factory.
Dan.
I called the dealer about that. They said they couldn't advise me on what to do or not to do. I just happen to know the service manager as well. I talked to her and she said to bring it in and let them do it real quick and notate that it had been done. You don't need to tape it, they didn't.
Hello Farmer! Im curious about your 2003 in the pic (nice truck by the way looks like my wifes except shorter by 2 doors). I picked up the recall parts to put on it because I couldnt get a straight answer from Ford here if I had a valid concern or not on the fire issue since the truck is not officially part of the recall. It seems the switch is the same part # as the recalled trucks (says the parts guy & it looks the same as well) so unless they put a fuse in the circuit the 03 has the same problem. I looked at the wiring diagram for the 03 but dont have an older one to compare it to. What were you told & did you compare the 03 to your older truck(s)?
Thanks for your time:-)
Thanks for your time:-)
I was taking a trip so I when to dealer and bought repair kit containing fused cable and a new switch for $21 and put it in. Part #1L1Z*9F924*AA. This was on a '99 F150. Just screwed out and in. No loss of fluid.
Hi Raisin - sounds like you did the same thing as myself but if you read what Quintin states here it might not be the right deal?????
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The pressure switch wiring was changed in '03. Prior to that, the circuit was fused on a circuit that was hot at all times. For the '03MY, they changed that to a switched circuit on all but the supercharged trucks. Therefore, there is no fire risk when the key is off. (That being said, there's still the remote possibility that it could spontaneously combust while driving down the road, but there haven't been any reports of that yet)
If you'll sleep better at night, you can pick up the switch for $15 and replace it in 10 minutes.
As for the recalled vehicles, take them in. There are three different possible fixes depending on the model year and condition of the existing component. At the very least, unplug it, tape it up to prevent debris from contaminating the connection, and zip-tie it to the cruise control actuator cable to keep it out of the way.
-Joe
If you'll sleep better at night, you can pick up the switch for $15 and replace it in 10 minutes.
As for the recalled vehicles, take them in. There are three different possible fixes depending on the model year and condition of the existing component. At the very least, unplug it, tape it up to prevent debris from contaminating the connection, and zip-tie it to the cruise control actuator cable to keep it out of the way.
-Joe
The mystery deepens....We have an 03 SuperCrew & the switch is hot at all times (even w/key off), it is EXACTLY the same as my father-in-laws 2000 F150 Supercab as I checked them both with a meter at the same time. He has since brought his in for the recall "fix" at my urging (he didnt think it was a big deal until I spelled it out for him - truck in garage, truck catches fire = BAD situation). Anyway my wifes vehicle is 2003 built in 10/02 but it is NOT on the recall list.
Hello Again Joe - Can you do us a favor & spell out the 3 fixes please, I thought there was only one & that was the "switch repair kit" which I have but havent installed yet. I just got it the other day but now with all the possible variations I need to know Im doing the correct thing. Id really like to see a fuse in that harness but the one in the kit might or might not have one?
TO: All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers
SUBJECT: Safety Recall 05S28 - Supplement #6
Certain 1994-1996 Model Year Bronco, 1994-2002 F-150/250 (Under 8500 GVW), 1997- 2002 Expedition, 1998-2002 Navigator, and 2002 Blackwood Vehicles Equipped With Speed Control
Speed Control System Modification
REASON FOR SUPPLEMENT #6
The purpose of this supplement is to announce that the seed stocking of the new service part (fused jumper harness), originally scheduled to begin the week of October 10, 2005, has been delayed until further notice.
Program Summary
CURRENT SERVICE PLAN
Feedback from dealers indicates that there is some confusion regarding the repair procedures for Safety Recall 05S28. To summarize for clarification:
Two populations of vehicles exist:
Vehicles in the Original Vehicle Population (GROUP A – refer to Affected Vehicle chart)
Vehicles added under Supplement #5 (GROUP B – refer to Affected Vehicle chart)
GROUP A
− Dealers are to first determine if the Speed Control Deactivation Switch is leaking.
If the switch is not leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation B)
If the switch is leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation E)
GROUP B
− Dealers are to first determine if the Speed Control Deactivation Switch is leaking.
If the switch is not leaking, disconnect speed control. (Interim Labor Operation K)
If the switch is leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation E)
Note: Either Labor Operation B or E will close the recall. Labor Operation K will not close the recall.
Why are we servicing the two populations of vehicles with different procedures?
Once parts are available, a new fused jumper harness will be used to service all vehicles that do not have a leaking Speed Control Deactivation Switch. This harness will be available in sufficient quantities to begin to service all vehicles affected by Safety Recall 05S28 by November of 2005. Until this new harness is available, dealers must disconnect the speed control system on all Group B vehicles, unless the vehicle has evidence of brake fluid leakage (repair with 9F924 Brake Repair Kit). Ford service part inventory of 9F924 Brake Repair Kits is sufficient to service only the vehicles included in Group A, and a small percentage of the vehicles in Group B.
Until the fused jumper harness is available in quantity, vehicles in Group A must be serviced with 9F924 Brake Repair Kits, since owners were advised in May 2005 that parts were available to complete the repair. Please do not disconnect the Speed Control System on Group A vehicles – install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit.
Future Service Plan
Once Fused Jumper Harnesses become available in the October-November timeframe, the two groups of vehicles will be serviced in the same manner. All affected vehicles will be serviced as follows:
Vehicles containing a switch that is not leaking will be serviced with a Fused Jumper Harness, which will close the recall.
Vehicles that contain a switch that is leaking will be serviced with the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit, which will close the recall. Do not install a Fused Jumper Harness on a vehicle with a leaking switch.
Note: Vehicles repaired with the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit do not require the installation of a fused jumper harness.
Parts Ordering
Do not order 9F924 Brake Repair Kits in preparation to service the entire population of vehicles covered under this recall.
Due to the high volume of 9F924 Brake Repair Kits currently available in dealer and FAD inventory, beginning September 12, 2005, dealers will only be able to order this part through their facing FAD.
Customer Letters for Group B vehicles will be mailed over a three-week timeframe beginning the week of September 12, 2005, advising that parts will be available in November 2005.
Job Aids
To assist Service Writers, Technicians and Warranty Administrators in determining appropriate repairs and claims processing, Job Aids have been developed for these positions. These one page documents are posted with this bulletin in the "Additional Information" section and should be printed and distributed to these individuals to assist them in performing their duties.
SUBJECT: Safety Recall 05S28 - Supplement #6
Certain 1994-1996 Model Year Bronco, 1994-2002 F-150/250 (Under 8500 GVW), 1997- 2002 Expedition, 1998-2002 Navigator, and 2002 Blackwood Vehicles Equipped With Speed Control
Speed Control System Modification
REASON FOR SUPPLEMENT #6
The purpose of this supplement is to announce that the seed stocking of the new service part (fused jumper harness), originally scheduled to begin the week of October 10, 2005, has been delayed until further notice.
Program Summary
CURRENT SERVICE PLAN
Feedback from dealers indicates that there is some confusion regarding the repair procedures for Safety Recall 05S28. To summarize for clarification:
Two populations of vehicles exist:
Vehicles in the Original Vehicle Population (GROUP A – refer to Affected Vehicle chart)
Vehicles added under Supplement #5 (GROUP B – refer to Affected Vehicle chart)
GROUP A
− Dealers are to first determine if the Speed Control Deactivation Switch is leaking.
If the switch is not leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation B)
If the switch is leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation E)
GROUP B
− Dealers are to first determine if the Speed Control Deactivation Switch is leaking.
If the switch is not leaking, disconnect speed control. (Interim Labor Operation K)
If the switch is leaking, install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit. (Labor Operation E)
Note: Either Labor Operation B or E will close the recall. Labor Operation K will not close the recall.
Why are we servicing the two populations of vehicles with different procedures?
Once parts are available, a new fused jumper harness will be used to service all vehicles that do not have a leaking Speed Control Deactivation Switch. This harness will be available in sufficient quantities to begin to service all vehicles affected by Safety Recall 05S28 by November of 2005. Until this new harness is available, dealers must disconnect the speed control system on all Group B vehicles, unless the vehicle has evidence of brake fluid leakage (repair with 9F924 Brake Repair Kit). Ford service part inventory of 9F924 Brake Repair Kits is sufficient to service only the vehicles included in Group A, and a small percentage of the vehicles in Group B.
Until the fused jumper harness is available in quantity, vehicles in Group A must be serviced with 9F924 Brake Repair Kits, since owners were advised in May 2005 that parts were available to complete the repair. Please do not disconnect the Speed Control System on Group A vehicles – install the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit.
Future Service Plan
Once Fused Jumper Harnesses become available in the October-November timeframe, the two groups of vehicles will be serviced in the same manner. All affected vehicles will be serviced as follows:
Vehicles containing a switch that is not leaking will be serviced with a Fused Jumper Harness, which will close the recall.
Vehicles that contain a switch that is leaking will be serviced with the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit, which will close the recall. Do not install a Fused Jumper Harness on a vehicle with a leaking switch.
Note: Vehicles repaired with the 9F924 Brake Repair Kit do not require the installation of a fused jumper harness.
Parts Ordering
Do not order 9F924 Brake Repair Kits in preparation to service the entire population of vehicles covered under this recall.
Due to the high volume of 9F924 Brake Repair Kits currently available in dealer and FAD inventory, beginning September 12, 2005, dealers will only be able to order this part through their facing FAD.
Customer Letters for Group B vehicles will be mailed over a three-week timeframe beginning the week of September 12, 2005, advising that parts will be available in November 2005.
Job Aids
To assist Service Writers, Technicians and Warranty Administrators in determining appropriate repairs and claims processing, Job Aids have been developed for these positions. These one page documents are posted with this bulletin in the "Additional Information" section and should be printed and distributed to these individuals to assist them in performing their duties.
REASON FOR SUPPLEMENT #5
The purpose of Supplement #5 was to:
· Expand the vehicle coverage to include additional vehicle lines and model years (see "Affected Vehicle – Supplement #5 Population" chart below).
· Announce that a new service procedure and service part (fused jumper harness) is expected to be available in limited quantities (seed stock) to service all vehicles covered by this recall beginning in mid-October 2005. (Note: This timing has been revised per Supplement #6.)
· Advise of a new interim repair labor operation for use in deactivating the speed control system on the Supplement #5 population of vehicles, until the fused jumper harness becomes available.
NOTE: The owners of vehicles covered by the original 05S28 recall have already been notified that parts are available to perform the final repair. Therefore, these vehicle owners will continue to have 05S28 completed using the existing Brake Repair Kit (Speed Control Deactivation Switch Kit) until the fused jumper harness becomes available.
When the fused jumper harness becomes available, this bulletin will be supplemented with new service procedures and labor operations that will apply to all vehicles covered by 05S28.
· Advise of the owner-mailing schedule.
AFFECTED VEHICLES
GROUP A - Original Vehicle Population
Year Model
2000 F-150, Expedition, and Navigator
2001 F-150 SuperCrew built from 9/11/99 through 8/7/00.
GROUP B - Supplement #5 Added Vehicle Population
Year Model
1994-1996 Bronco
1994-1999 & 2001-2002 F-150
1994-1999 F-250 (Under 8500 GVW) built from 8/24/93 - 9/10/99
2001-2002 F-150 SuperCrew built from 8/8/00 - 8/20/02
1997-1999 & 2001-2002 Expedition
1998-1999 & 2001-2002 Navigator
2002 Blackwood
The purpose of Supplement #5 was to:
· Expand the vehicle coverage to include additional vehicle lines and model years (see "Affected Vehicle – Supplement #5 Population" chart below).
· Announce that a new service procedure and service part (fused jumper harness) is expected to be available in limited quantities (seed stock) to service all vehicles covered by this recall beginning in mid-October 2005. (Note: This timing has been revised per Supplement #6.)
· Advise of a new interim repair labor operation for use in deactivating the speed control system on the Supplement #5 population of vehicles, until the fused jumper harness becomes available.
NOTE: The owners of vehicles covered by the original 05S28 recall have already been notified that parts are available to perform the final repair. Therefore, these vehicle owners will continue to have 05S28 completed using the existing Brake Repair Kit (Speed Control Deactivation Switch Kit) until the fused jumper harness becomes available.
When the fused jumper harness becomes available, this bulletin will be supplemented with new service procedures and labor operations that will apply to all vehicles covered by 05S28.
· Advise of the owner-mailing schedule.
AFFECTED VEHICLES
GROUP A - Original Vehicle Population
Year Model
2000 F-150, Expedition, and Navigator
2001 F-150 SuperCrew built from 9/11/99 through 8/7/00.
GROUP B - Supplement #5 Added Vehicle Population
Year Model
1994-1996 Bronco
1994-1999 & 2001-2002 F-150
1994-1999 F-250 (Under 8500 GVW) built from 8/24/93 - 9/10/99
2001-2002 F-150 SuperCrew built from 8/8/00 - 8/20/02
1997-1999 & 2001-2002 Expedition
1998-1999 & 2001-2002 Navigator
2002 Blackwood
REASON FOR THIS SAFETY RECALL
The underhood Speed Control Deactivation Switch (SCDS) may overheat, smoke, or burn, which could result in an underhood fire. The potential for a fire exists regardless of whether speed control is being used or the engine is running.
SERVICE ACTION
(NOTE: THE FOLLOWING SERVICE ACTIONS ARE TO BE USED UNTIL THE FUSED JUMPER HARNESS IS AVAILABLE)
Overview: A new repair procedure involving a fused jumper harness is being developed to service the entire population of vehicles covered under this recall. Seed stocking of the fused jumper harnesses, originally scheduled to begin the week of October 10, 2005, has been delayed until further notice. Until fused jumpers are available; it will be necessary to perform unique service procedures for the two vehicle populations ( Group A and Group B):
Based on a commitment made in May 2005 to owners of Group A vehicles, dealers must continue to perform the final repair on this population of vehicles
For the population of vehicles in Group B (recently added under Supplement #5), dealers are to perform the interim repair (disabling the speed control system)..
When the fused jumper harness becomes available, this bulletin will be supplemented with the new service procedures and labor operations.
All repairs are to be performed at no charge to the vehicle owner.
Group A Population (see Affected Vehicle section):
Inspect speed control deactivation switch electrical connector for brake fluid contamination.
No brake fluid contamination present: Dealers are to continue to install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), which will close the recall.
Brake fluid contamination present: If the connector is contaminated, dealers are to use compressed air to blow brake fluid from the speed control deactivation switch vehicle harness connector and servo vehicle harness connector, install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), and apply electrical grease to the Speed Control Servo electrical connector. In addition, dealers are to inspect the Speed Control Servo electrical connector for heat damage. If the Speed Control Servo connector shows signs of heat damage, dealers should call the Special Service Support Center to obtain additional repair information. This action will close the recall.
Group B Population (see Affected Vehicle section):
Inspect speed control deactivation switch electrical connector for brake fluid contamination.
No brake fluid contamination present: If authorized by the customer, dealers are to deactivate the speed control system. This Interim Repair will not close the recall.
− Exceptions to the Interim Repair:
If an owner has special needs that necessitate that their vehicle has a functional speed control system, dealers are authorized to install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), which will close the recall.
Brake fluid contamination present: If the connector is contaminated, dealers are to use compressed air to blow brake fluid from the speed control deactivation switch vehicle harness connector and servo vehicle harness connector, install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), and apply electrical grease to the Speed Control Servo electrical connector. In addition, dealers are to inspect the Speed Control Servo electrical connector for heat damage. If the Speed Control Servo connector shows signs of heat damage, dealers should call the Special Service Support Center to obtain additional repair information. This action will close the recall.
[There's a nice flow chart here that really explains it.... I can't figure out how to copy it here though...]
Now, the short version is, replace the switch. If it's not currently leaking, don't sweat it, just unplug it until parts are available. If it IS leaking, take it in and they will replace it with the parts from the original recall (i.e. no fused harness). If you want to wait for the fused harness, unplug it and wait for the parts to become available. Keep in mind this statement:
They may or may not be available anytime soon. Using the new part at least gets you back up and running, and if you choose to do so, keep the old part. When the new parts become available, put the old one back in and take it in to get the fused harness.
It's not a big deal in any case.
-Joe
The underhood Speed Control Deactivation Switch (SCDS) may overheat, smoke, or burn, which could result in an underhood fire. The potential for a fire exists regardless of whether speed control is being used or the engine is running.
SERVICE ACTION
(NOTE: THE FOLLOWING SERVICE ACTIONS ARE TO BE USED UNTIL THE FUSED JUMPER HARNESS IS AVAILABLE)
Overview: A new repair procedure involving a fused jumper harness is being developed to service the entire population of vehicles covered under this recall. Seed stocking of the fused jumper harnesses, originally scheduled to begin the week of October 10, 2005, has been delayed until further notice. Until fused jumpers are available; it will be necessary to perform unique service procedures for the two vehicle populations ( Group A and Group B):
Based on a commitment made in May 2005 to owners of Group A vehicles, dealers must continue to perform the final repair on this population of vehicles
For the population of vehicles in Group B (recently added under Supplement #5), dealers are to perform the interim repair (disabling the speed control system)..
When the fused jumper harness becomes available, this bulletin will be supplemented with the new service procedures and labor operations.
All repairs are to be performed at no charge to the vehicle owner.
Group A Population (see Affected Vehicle section):
Inspect speed control deactivation switch electrical connector for brake fluid contamination.
No brake fluid contamination present: Dealers are to continue to install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), which will close the recall.
Brake fluid contamination present: If the connector is contaminated, dealers are to use compressed air to blow brake fluid from the speed control deactivation switch vehicle harness connector and servo vehicle harness connector, install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), and apply electrical grease to the Speed Control Servo electrical connector. In addition, dealers are to inspect the Speed Control Servo electrical connector for heat damage. If the Speed Control Servo connector shows signs of heat damage, dealers should call the Special Service Support Center to obtain additional repair information. This action will close the recall.
Group B Population (see Affected Vehicle section):
Inspect speed control deactivation switch electrical connector for brake fluid contamination.
No brake fluid contamination present: If authorized by the customer, dealers are to deactivate the speed control system. This Interim Repair will not close the recall.
− Exceptions to the Interim Repair:
If an owner has special needs that necessitate that their vehicle has a functional speed control system, dealers are authorized to install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), which will close the recall.
Brake fluid contamination present: If the connector is contaminated, dealers are to use compressed air to blow brake fluid from the speed control deactivation switch vehicle harness connector and servo vehicle harness connector, install the Brake Repair Kit (9F924), and apply electrical grease to the Speed Control Servo electrical connector. In addition, dealers are to inspect the Speed Control Servo electrical connector for heat damage. If the Speed Control Servo connector shows signs of heat damage, dealers should call the Special Service Support Center to obtain additional repair information. This action will close the recall.
[There's a nice flow chart here that really explains it.... I can't figure out how to copy it here though...]
Now, the short version is, replace the switch. If it's not currently leaking, don't sweat it, just unplug it until parts are available. If it IS leaking, take it in and they will replace it with the parts from the original recall (i.e. no fused harness). If you want to wait for the fused harness, unplug it and wait for the parts to become available. Keep in mind this statement:
Seed stocking of the fused jumper harnesses, originally scheduled to begin the week of October 10, 2005, has been delayed until further notice.
It's not a big deal in any case.
-Joe
Originally Posted by LittleTow
Hello Again Joe - Can you do us a favor & spell out the 3 fixes please, I thought there was only one & that was the "switch repair kit" which I have but havent installed yet. I just got it the other day but now with all the possible variations I need to know Im doing the correct thing. Id really like to see a fuse in that harness but the one in the kit might or might not have one?
Clear as mud, eh?
The ORIGINAL batch of recalled vehicles had one and only one repair: The new switch with the new plug adapter.
The NEW batch has two fixes: 1) if it's leaking, replace it with the same kit as the original recall, or 2) If it's not leaking, disconnect it and wait until parts are available.
Originally Posted by LittleTow
The mystery deepens....We have an 03 SuperCrew & the switch is hot at all times (even w/key off), it is EXACTLY the same as my father-in-laws 2000 F150 Supercab as I checked them both with a meter at the same time. He has since brought his in for the recall "fix" at my urging (he didnt think it was a big deal until I spelled it out for him - truck in garage, truck catches fire = BAD situation). Anyway my wifes vehicle is 2003 built in 10/02 but it is NOT on the recall list.
-Joe


