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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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HI!... Well my family has owned all of the big 3 trucks over the years. ALL I can say is from our own experience, DODGE makes the worst truck on the planet and CHEVY is not too far behind them. Mabey that's why FORD out sells all other truck manufacturers 4 to 1. Here in CANADA, no one has out sold the F-150 in 26 years. I'll stick to my FORD's thankyou. If you don't like your FORD, then sell it and get what ever you want. This way there are more VICTIMS for me on the street and the dragstrip! LOL!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Maybe where you live, in the west, Dodge, Chevy, and Ford have equal amounts on the road.

Have you driven a new dodge or a new chevy and a new ford, each has their advantages and disadvantages.

Btw, anyone see the dyno of the 04 5.4l 3v, making 204hp at its peak. I believe it was over on ford truck world.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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HI!... Obviously they dynoed that truck wrong. MIKE TROYER dynoed his wife's "04" 5.4 3-valve SCREW 4x4, auto and got 247RWH.P and 350FT/LBS of TQ at the rear wheels with just his re-flashed computer. No other mods, bone stock. It weighs in at about 5800LBS and went 76mph plus in just the 1/8 mile. That there, proves to me it makes the power.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Im all about saving the environment, as long as the damned govt pays for it. Im all about tree hugging as long as it doesnt cost me anything.

If the govt pays, You pay!! What do you think taxes are!!!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by Dodge4x4
BINGO.

Then youd be like me, with a 96 4x4 with an *** whoopin' under-rated 360 and 121,000 miles that walks any new 5.4L.

UMMM the 360 is a dog, I've taken a few of em! You must be racing 4.6's......heck even they would give your slow a$$ 360 a run!

This guys thinks he's got a Hemi!

-Adam
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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Its all in how a truck is maintained and the way it is drove. I have had mine for 7 years and no problem except the leaky window (if i am in a carwash). Thats not even worth complaining about. I drive 110+ miles each day and have never even had a thought the truck would not make it to work and back. i am sure that one day it will have a problem but it sure beats the dakota i had before it huge POS.....
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by Toe
Maybe where you live, in the west, Dodge, Chevy, and Ford have equal amounts on the road.

Have you driven a new dodge or a new chevy and a new ford, each has their advantages and disadvantages.

Btw, anyone see the dyno of the 04 5.4l 3v, making 204hp at its peak. I believe it was over on ford truck world.
http://ford-trucks.com/news/2004/news2004-4.html
Here's the fte page with sales figures on it. Ford has quite a few more trucks on the road in the west than any other competitor. In Texas, one out of every four vehicles sold is a Ford F-Series. In 1997, the Ford F-Series became the best-selling vehicle of all time, passing the Volkswagon Beetle. Chances are, if you have ever been alive and bought a new vehicle, it was a Ford truck. No other brand is even close, and hasn't been for almost 30 years. This is the 22nd year in a row that F-Series has been the best-selling vehicle car OR truck in the United States. Maybe they're not the best-selling in your town or even your county, but they definitely are in the west. They are in all regions.

By the way, I have a 4.6 4x4, and I'll walk your Dodge.
 

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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When you clear the codes the PCM will let the emissions tester's computer know how long ago you re-set it and all states that test emissions by connecting to the PCM have limits on how long it has been since the last reset.
All states also have limits on the rate of travel that you should follow on public roads. Do you always go by those? Do the police officers always enforce them? NO.
As a matter of fact i thought i was going to have to go thru the emissions test and i called three of my favorite mechanics and emmissions testing centers to query them on the odds of my truck passing. They said "is there an check engine light?" I said no, they said "ok, then your good to go".
You work out the details


Again, why are you here? I understand the need to lurk on other truck sites to see if other brands are having all of the same problems you are having, what I don't understand is your need to post on a Ford truck site when you own a Dodge truck?
Well, chief, this is an easy one. Regardless of what YOU might think. The big three have very similar engines and setups, as such, they have very similar problems, which leads to.....yes, you guessed it, similar solutions. THATS why im here. I read all the little posts, problems, bitches, complaints etc, and i keep all that information tucked back in my head. Then when im crusiing down the road and run into a problem that sounds familiar, i have TWO sources of information to call on, including this board. Likewise, there might have been something i experienced that may be of use to you or others, slim chance, but its a chance none the less.


It's kind of like people that wear FDNY or FBI hats and clothes even though they never worked for either. I would bet that you have an Orange Coutny Choppers sticker or something like that on your back window even though you have never owned a street bike. Am I correct? How about Calvin?
Is this the same thing as people who have MARYLAND as their location and tell someone in TEXAS how the emissions testing goes? When you are pulled over, do you inform the officer of the proper procedure to approach the vehicle and fill out the paperwork for the ticket?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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As if we need another opinion here ... I'll add mine. IMHO this entire emissions thing has gotten completely out of control. The little guy is the one that gets the butt end of the deal on this. If this guy was saying that he removed his cats, and was running a chip, and he could pass I would have no simpathy. If you have a maintained stock truck and it won't pass it is just BS.

I hear more and more stories of people driving newer, unmodified, and expensive vehicles that have to jump through massive hoops just to drive. You don't improve air quality by irritating people. That just makes them mad at the system. Want to sign a petition to overturn vehicle testing? How many guys in his postion wouldn't?

One last thing. I don't apply to the theory that "you stink so I can stink too" but anyone that thinks that cars are somehow "the major source of air pollution" must be crazy. Stand downwind of any foundy (the ones near Albany, NY will work). Look at the snow in northern states near coal burning power plants. Go 50 miles south of the border, and smell the air near any industry. Drive past Gary, Indiana when the wind is still (the stink lasts for over 50 miles!). Drive I75 over the Rouge river in Detroit (I can't even leave the VENT on or my eyes water for miles). Even the tiny refinery near my home stinks of HC so bad I have to hold my breath as I drive by. I can smell it, I can see it and it is all MUCH worse than stading on a busy city street wth the 1000's of cars worth of fumes.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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If you have a maintained stock truck and it won't pass it is just BS.
I agree. I guess i dont have a problem with emissions testing completely. It is a good idea to keep things in check. What rubs me the wrong way, and probly alot of folks is that if it fails, YOU pay for it to be repaired AND you pay for it to be retested. That is just plain WRONG! I am not sure, but i think that MOST people drive completely unmodified trucks or cars. As such, sensors do fail and when they do, a 20 dollar sensor ends up costing much more when it comes time to be tested. The way it ought to work is that you get tested, if it fails, the state pays your mechanic for all the parts and labor and the retesting until it passes. I dont know if anyone has read what they call "circumstances" for waivers for emissions, but in Texas, they are pretty sad. Its a bunch of crap like the car has to have a billion dollars in attempted work and still fail the test and you have to have three legs and live in a run down shack with a barefoot pregnant wife and kids running naked in the yard. It pretty much boils down to the fact that you have to have spent all your money on the vehicle...and then if you do....well, screw you, the state doesnt care anyway and you wont meet the other criteria.

Not cool....not cool at all. Do you folks from other states have similar laws?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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O.K. Tonto.

Yes I am from Maryland and as a matter of fact I travel to every state for a living. And I have lived in many states.

All I did was look up the emissions laws/rules on the Texas website and you are still wrong. I was just pointing out/informing you that your shade tree battery trick won't work.

I too lurk on other truck sites for similar information and what ever gave you the idea that I thought that the big three were dis-similar?? Stupid statement on your part. Sorry. Back to my point, I lurk on those other sites but I refrain from posting (Especially something like I raced one of their trucks and won) so that I don't give mixed messages. (FYI I currently own a dodge and chevy along with my f-150)

I didn't come here to argue and I don't really care what you do here. However I don't understand what your issue is with the emission testing system in your state and why you think the state should pay for it. By the way most emission controls on todays vehicles have a federally mandated 10 year warranty. Double check your purchase paperwork.

It seems to only suck for people who can't get their vehicles to pass. And all the statements about other industries polluting more is a joke. Yes they pollute more than cars and light trucks but they too have unbelievable emission standards to meet. have you ever spoken to the manager of a coal fired power plant or incinerator?? They get tested almost daily.

Also the federal government is about to enforce such harsh emission standards on heavy trucks that a lot of the little guys will be forced out of business because they won't be able to afford to update their fleets. I can go on if you wish.

What we should be woring about is emission standards in other countries. (Have you crossed the border lately?) our country is scrubbing the air but other countries are polluting like crazy.

Peace-
 
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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... Do you folks from other states have similar laws?
There is no emission testing in Virginia at this time.
From what I understand, once a certain EPA level is reached in a State, testing is required.

They have used the threat of emission testing in this State as a stick to beat us over the head to try an get big road projects approved.

i.e. No road project will lead to traffic backups in cities leading to higher emission levels and the start of mandatory testing.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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The states that have non-attainment status under the Clean Air Act have to develope a plan (State Implementation Plan) to tell EPA how they will come into full compliance. One of the easiest and less expensive option for any state and approved by EPA is vehicle emission standards. There are numerous New Source Pollution Standards (NSPS) that were set many years ago that are only now starting to be enforced. One is heavy equipment as mentioned above. Another one that has really pissed off a lot of people is two stroke engines. Don't know if you've noticed, but two stroke engines are going away. Jet skis, mopeds, dirt bikes, etc. etc have to now go to a 4 stroke design. This is because a two stroke can't not meet the new NSPS. If you got a two stroke engine that you love, hold on to it because you won't be able to replace it.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Its cool dood. I didnt mean to rile anyone up. I havent beat all of the f-150s but i have gotten quite a few. I havent ever posted anything like that before because it will get people riled up, especially since i dont ahve a ford. Alas, i couldt refrain, i figured just this once.....ill say it. Oh well, I'll refrain harder next time.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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My offer of 50 bucks for your truck still stands. (Not for the Dodge, but for the original thread starter)
I don't have a problem with people who don't drive Fords being here (as long as they ain't a troll), it isn't an owner's site, it's an enthusiast site. I don't think Dodge4x4 is a troll. He may be a poor pitiful misdguided soul when it comes to trucks, but he's not a troll.
 
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