In the past on all of my vehicles I've used Lucas Fuel Treatment, and love it, but I don't know anything about turbos, and was wondering if it was okay to use Lucas with them? I don't use it every fill up, just every oil change.

 

To me, fuel treatments are just snake oil. I've never seen hardened proof on their claims. The only feedback I ever have from them is one possibly causing a clogged catalytic converter, costing me $300 to repair.

 

Soooooooooooooo is it safe to use with the twin-turbo?

 

Call your Ford dealer and ask them.

 

The only fuel treatment I might use would be an occasional bottle of Techron, but since I buy Texaco or Chevron, I don't need it.

 

Edit: Ease up! Insults are not allowed on this site, plus, I really don't see what you got so bent about. He may be correct, the Ford dealer may be the best source for info concerning the EB.

Jim

 

I was really just looking for a yes or no answer. Or I would love to hear another EcoBoost owner who has used fuel treatment products experiences.

 

Fuel injector cleaners will keep the injector nozzles clean while they are running thru the injector but are really designed to keep the intake system clean as well as the valves and stems on the intake side. But, the EB injects directly into the combustion chamber which pretty much means buy all the injector cleaner you want cause it's not going to do you one lick of good. This is one of the major design flaws in any direct injection engine. With cam overlap being what it is today, expect to have to tear this engine apart occasionally to clean the intake system. Some of the car makers have already stop sell some of their direct injection engines like BMW. Cooper now recommends a tear down every 10,000 miles at owners expense. Get the picture.

 

^ well, your info is true, but did you see Ford's teardown of the torture test. The engineers all took extra interest when the valves at tear down were coming out. They were in good shape for 160k. Multiple pics of them are available. Ford acknowledged the problem and have clearly stated they are doing things different than other automakers have tried.
Here's a quote " A control method and system is described for a spark ignited, four-stroke engine having multiple combustion chambers, each coupled to at least one intake and one exhaust valve, a fuel injection system for injecting fuel directly into each combustion chamber, and an electronically controlled throttle for throttling air inducted through an intake manifold into the combustion chambers. Additional fuel is injected during the exhaust valve overlap. This additional fuel is drawn from the combustion chamber into the intake manifold and subsequently inducted back into the combustion chamber past the intake valve, thereby cleaning carbon deposits from the intake valve and the surrounding surfaces."

This way of keeping the valves clean is patented by Ford. ^ it's where I grabbed the quote

On the 09 forum there is an ecoboost at 130,000 miles. I feel the motor will be fine for 99% of the buyers up to 100k miles.

 

I can only assume you missed this part of the thread about the EB on test.

I'm well aware of the measures that Ford has taken to limit carbon deposits and they aren't the first to try it. GM has the same closed intake valve event as the EB. Gm will tell you quick they have zero complaints about their 3.6 V6 direct injected engine and carbon deposits. That's because they chose to ignore the complaints of their customers. If there's no CEL, there's no problem. Apparently sticking yer head in the sand is a good warranty policy. I hope Ford doesn't do the same but buyers should have learned with the cam phasers and blown spark plugs with the 5.4s that "new" technology means you, the buyer, are the test mule.

 

^ I didn't miss that part. It does not in any way pertain to carbon build-up on the valves. Please show me a blown engine due to carbon deposits on a valve? That engine developed a knock and was in limp mode , but they ran it balz to wall anyway. I still believe Ford has it right, not perfect, but right.

 

I don't trust ANY fuel treatments except Techron, and I'd still ask Ford about it before I'd use it in a EB.