4.2V6+SC...why not a V8 to begin with?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 31, 2001 | 04:54 PM
  #31  
Rubin McGroin's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Midlothian, TX
Post

Hey Autonet, you're Canadian and you can't find anyone to let you play with their shifter ? Just Kidding!!
Seriously, I have just bought a '01 F150 SC and am considering putting a SC in it. I had though about doing the same with my '99 Camaro V6 but it wasn't worth the hassle. I missed driving a truck way to much. "Yes my brothers I strayed off the path but have returned."

I am on my way to your web site and I'm very interested in you product.
 
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2001 | 05:21 PM
  #32  
01sl's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Post

I find it very hard to believe that a supercharged v-6 will outrun my '01 GT Mustang. Call me crazy or something, but I had a '91 F150 with the 300 inline 6, the **** is so light, you won't do anything but spin the tires. I mean, you barely get any traction as it is, just try pushing close to 100 more horses and see what kind of traction you get. HA!
I have to admit though, the 6's are strong motors, but racing off the line comes from torque. And, you can't get near as much torque out of a 6. Plus, you have to take into consideration that the v-8 owners are doing the same mods. and therefore developing more power.
No offense to v-6 owners. Just my half a cent. Lol.
 
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2001 | 08:09 PM
  #33  
lightningcrashz's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,007
Likes: 0
From: liquid sunshine state (oregon)
Post

The traction issues do hold true for the 4x2, but the 4x4 is much heavier and doesn't spin the tires very easily.I know I had a 98 v-6 2wd and that thing could burn em off like crazy. My y2k 4x4 is doin good to get a chirp(unless I dump the clutch at about 3000 rpms,wich I don't recomend).
 
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2001 | 12:55 AM
  #34  
FASTX98's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Post

I just wanted to say that I love my truck and that I am seriously considering the S.C. for it. However, the one thing that really bugs me with this 5 speed is the throw in the gears. No matter how fast I make this truck,I still won't be able to shift any faster. Maybe a shifter revision from someone....hint..hint. I get terrible mileage for a 6 and would never buy one again, however,It is very dependable and was economical on the wallet at the time. it still kicks a** for a truck and sounds great with the 40 series flowie. It'll be paid off soon, and then time for a Cobra, I still love the stangs.

------------------
Oxford White
'98 Reg. Cab Flairside STX 4.2L 5 spd. 3.55's w/275x60x17's;
2 chamber 40 series Flowmaster 3" inlet Dual 2.5" outlets; K&N w/airbox mod; ASP underdrive pulley; Superchip; Sony CD head unit-280watt 4 channel Kenwood w/4 5x7 Polk Dx's;8' Kicker substaion for bass; Viper alarm; Dark tint and sheilds. my truck is cool!!!!!!!
 
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2001 | 11:56 AM
  #35  
Rubin McGroin's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Midlothian, TX
Post

'01sl
You right on. Try as we might, our V6 trucks are not going to out run your GT. There is a lot more to off the line punch then just torque (suspension, tires, weight distribution, etc.) What I am more interested in is MPG increase and throttle response when passing on the HWay. Both of wich might be gained w/ a centrifical SC. Looking at PowerDyne right now. Any other recs from the members are welcome.
 
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2001 | 04:39 PM
  #36  
Autonet Performance's Avatar
Former Sponsor
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Post

Hey 01, just a thought for you.

I drive a mustang GT aswell. Maybe not a 01 but with my modifications I run close (i've raced a few). You can not really speak too much of torque as the 4.6L isnt exactly known for its low end torque.

A pushrod V8 pushes much more low end torque than you. Yes, stock the V8 has more torque all through the power band. Mind you, superchargers add torque. Traction problems can be forseen as well, but you do not really need to do a break stand nor floor it in the beginning to gain speed. The vehical itself, if drivin properly could attain better quarter mile times than a stock 01 GT. We do not promise in any way that you will be superior to Mustang's. I myself am purchasing an engine/supercharger combo which will give me 575 HP at the rear wheels. This engine is a 4.6L DOHC Cobra engine. But, in its fairly stock state as it is now, I see no reason why the Supercharged 4.2 could not overtake my car in a race.

This isnt really a Mustang VS F-150 board. This is meant for V6 enthusiests who want to talk about, and improve their F-150 V6.



------------------
Autonet Performance
http://www.autoperformance.net
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2001 | 08:37 PM
  #37  
Waldo0506's Avatar
Banned
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
From: Collierville,TN,Confederate States of America |><|
Post

i will match your question with a question

Q: Why spend 24,000 on the truck and then another 5,000 in mods to make it go faster and look better when you could just buy a Lightning for about 2,000 more??

A: Because for some people that is just too easy. Sometimes it is fun to embarass v8's when they make fun of the v6's. take the tundra for instance, it has a v8 yet it only has 15 more hp than the 6 banger f150.


------------------
'97 XLT Clearcoat Red 4x2
17 inch Wheels,Stepside, K&N,bedliner, 32 inch tires, flowmasters, deep tint, big Ford oval on back window, 5 spd, platinum plugs, CB, hidden hitch, ford emblem hitch cover and a little wal-mart smiley face on the antenna wearing a coboy hat :-)

http://www.my-f150.com/waldo0506
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2001 | 02:07 PM
  #38  
BROTHERDAVE's Avatar
Senior Member
25 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,759
Likes: 4
From: Friendswood Texas
Post

hey waldo acouple of things
1. i had a 6 cylinder because at the time it was what i could afford - i will never have one again.
2. would have got a lightning but i needed an extended cab.
3. resale value, my truck with a 5.4 will resale higher than your truck with a supercharged v-6.
4. challenge? put a normally aspirated 5.4 in the 13's and people will say wow. put a v-6 with a supercharger in the 14's and peolple will say just think i he did that much work to a v-8 he would run 13's, camaro - mustang territory. (also go change the spark plugs on the 5.4, now that is a challenge)
5. nothing wrong with a v-6 but if your plan is to go fast i would save up for the v-8. or buy a low milage used one.
6. i am sure there are v-6 that run with or beat v-8. what modes have thay done to do it? (not counting nitrous)
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2001 | 10:59 PM
  #39  
mtrujillo's Avatar
Member
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: Denver , Colorado
Unhappy

I'm sorry loyal 4.2 fans, but this engines gas mileage sucks. Me and my dad both have 97 flareside 4x4s, the only difference between oours is the color and the engine size.With my 4.2 V-6, I average about 300 miles on a full tank. My dads 4.6 V-8 averages about 348. I dont know, do the math, and see that the 4.2 is a gas hog. I'm currently seeking a swapout of my 4.2 for a 4.6, the sooner the better as far as I'm concerned!
 
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2001 | 06:26 PM
  #40  
petec1's Avatar
Suspended
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Livonia, Mi
Post

The V6s will run if you put a blower on them.

I have a 99 Mustang that was a 3.8. I just finished putting a 4.2 in it. I don't have dyno / 1/4 times for the 4.2 yet.
I don't keep up with 99-up GTs...I smoke them.

I have no doubt that with the right mods a 4.2 F-150 could beat the 5.4 Lightnings and most everything else.


------------------
13.18 @ 106 (slicks) 13.44 @ 105 (streets)
295 RWHP/294 RWT
All nos are from the 3.8L...nothing with the 4.2L yet.
http://www.mustangweekly.com/2000/Ju...s/NEWSP31.asp#

http://www.v6power.com/news/features.htm
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2001 | 01:34 PM
  #41  
BROTHERDAVE's Avatar
Senior Member
25 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,759
Likes: 4
From: Friendswood Texas
Post

petec1 just think if you had done all that work you would be running 11's. can v-6 go fast? sure
i bet that when a kit is available, that what you will get for your $3000 is maybe mid 15's(remember that truck weighs a little bit more than your mustang)
as far a betting a lightning, you let me know when you see a full size, street legal, v-6 f-150, beat a lightning. also remeber that with an air filter and a chip the lightning goes low 13's
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2001 | 01:57 PM
  #42  
Zeus 2k1's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
From: Overland Park, Kansas (Kansas City) - Soon to be Ft. Worth, TX
Post

My .02 --
Just buy a Lightning!



------------------
2000 Silver Lightning
#2798
Born on date: May 9, 2000

Mod's (in order of purchase):
1. Black Ford slush mats
2. 20% window tinting
3. K&N air filter

Soon to come: hard silver toneau cover, superchip, new speakers, bug deflector, brushed alluminum dash --- now i just need money
 
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2001 | 01:05 AM
  #43  
B777's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Beautiful Fort Worth in the Great State of Texas which is part of The Best Country on this Planet Earth, The U.S.A.!
Post

Not trying to start a flame war here guys but FYI, My ragged out 140,000 mile T-Bird SC 3.8 has smoked many stock 5.4 reg cab F-150's easily.

And the T-Bird is a pig as far as weight goes at 3950 Lbs. gassed up.(Throw my 6' 5" 300 Lb body in there and the car is over two tons!!)

If you check out any of the T-Bird SC performance sites you will quickly find these cars in the low 13's to mid 12's with very few mods. (Cat back, chip, pulleys, FIPK and intercooler fans)

There is a guy here in Fort Worth that has one in the low 11's with motor work too!

So in my opinion, a 4.2 SC could be a bad *** truck!!
I only wish there was someone making a kit that was based around the same design as the 3.8 SC, Now that would be nice!!
 
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2001 | 10:32 AM
  #44  
petec1's Avatar
Suspended
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Livonia, Mi
Post

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BROTHERDAVE:
petec1 just think if you had done all that work you would be running 11's.
i bet that when a kit is available, that what you will get for your $3000 is maybe mid 15's(remember that truck weighs a little bit more than your mustang)
as far a betting a lightning, you let me know when you see a full size, street legal, v-6 f-150, beat a lightning. also remeber that with an air filter and a chip the lightning goes low 13's
</font>
You guys need to remember...

I was 4k ahead when I bought the V6 + much cheaper insurance.
So I spent 4k on mods and a blower and still have the cheap insurance but am much quicker than a GT or Cobra. 11s sure...but if I wanted 11s I wouldn't start with a brand new car either. Mine is just a very fun, very quick driver.

Zeus2k1 - your sig says it all "now I just need money"
Lightnings aren't cheap are they?

If I can get a 3200# 3.8L into the low 13s...a 4000# 4.2L will make high 13s. for about 5k less than the Lightning.

------------------
13.18 @ 106 (slicks) 13.44 @ 105 (streets)
295 RWHP/294 RWT
All nos are from the 3.8L...nothing with the 4.2L yet.
http://www.mustangweekly.com/2000/Ju...s/NEWSP31.asp#

http://www.v6power.com/news/features.htm
 
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2001 | 10:48 AM
  #45  
Musick76's Avatar
Member
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Coconut Creek , FL
Talking

Don't forget the 1987 3.8L GNX V6, my friend has one and it is fast as *****.
Just thought I'd speak for the V6 guys. No flame intended.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:31 AM.