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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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I like TP but they are wicked expensive... I so want a Troyer Tuner...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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How the heck would you want it tuned? You drive like an old lady, shortshift it, and haul/tow way over your limit........
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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How the heck would you want it tuned? You drive like an old lady, shortshift it, and haul/tow way over your limit........
I would get the rare and unpopular old person tune. This is the one where it also limits your top speed to only 45 mph and changes the rev limit to 2500 rpms.

I will also have it change the fuel mapping so it runs extra lean to get 30 mpg.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Troyer offers a discount for f150online.com members.

Originally Posted by ManualF150
I like TP but they are wicked expensive... I so want a Troyer Tuner...
Originally Posted by 04heritage
ouch!!!

did you pay $450 for that?


VMP $399 for custom tuning

Vmp tunes for your mods-http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=226&parent=66
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 04heritage
ouch!!!

did you pay $450 for that?


VMP $399 for custom tuning

Vmp tunes for your mods-http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=226&parent=66
I never heard of this? Is it better than Superchip??
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Depending on how much you want to spend is going to dictate what you need to buy. If you want basic bolt ons than go with the big three; Tuner, Intake, and Exhaust. If you want more get UDPs and E-Fans. E Fans will also give you colder A/C. UDPs are worth about 6 rwhp and the E-Fans about 10 rwhp. Don't skimp on the kit for the E-Fans. I highly recommend not buying the E-Fans from Troyer, a lot of people had problems with them. Troyer does sell a good set of pullies, ASP. If you want more power, I'm damn near positive that there is a turbo kit out for the V6 F150s.

Originally Posted by Fifty150
Troyer offers a discount for f150online.com members.
Troyer's discount on the Xcal2 for F150Online members is only $25 so it brings it to $425 with 3 custom tunes + shipping.

VMP sells the Xcal2 for $395 with 3 custom tunes.

Originally Posted by ManualF150
I like TP but they are wicked expensive... I so want a Troyer Tuner...
Why do you want a tuner from Troyer? They are more expensive than VMP, they take way longer than VMP, and as of recently a lot of people are actually switching from Troyer to VMP and like their VMP tunes much better.
 

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
Why do you want a tuner from Troyer? They are more expensive than VMP, they take way longer than VMP, and as of recently a lot of people are actually switching from Troyer to VMP and like their VMP tunes much better.
Well, I thought their customer service was decent. But I never bought anything from them.

Thanks for the notice though... won't be buying from them I suppose.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TXhustla
I never heard of this? Is it better than Superchip??


SF3 Power Flash Handheld Programmer
Part Number: 3015
Key Features:
• Latest Flash Technology
• Pre-Loaded with Dyno Proven Tune Files
• Reads / Clears DTC Trouble Codes
• User Adjustable Features
• Monitor Popular External Sensors
• 2008 Models Supported
• Built-In High Speed Datalogging
User Adjustable Features:
• WOT Fuel Adjustment • Idle RPM
• Spark Adjustment • Transmission Shift Points
• Axle Ratio • Fuel Injector Size
• Tire Size - Rev / Mile • Air Intake Selection
• Cooling Fan Temps • Traction Control On / Off
• Rev / Speed Limiters • Two StepOn / Off RPM
* Not all adjustments available on all vehicles
Pre-Loaded Dyno Proven Tune Files:
The SF3 arrives Pre-Loaded with DYNO Proven tune files that INCREASE HORSEPOWER, TORQUE and EVEN FUEL MILEAGE!
Large Backlit Screen:
With a HUGE Backlit display, the SCT SF3 Power Flash makes it EASY to read the Built-In Data Logging or Real Time Monitored Vehicle Data, view popular sensor data such as EGT, Air / Fuel Ratio or any other 0-5 Volt source via the Dual Input Analog port.
Read / Clear DTC Codes:
Using the SF3 Power Flash Device, you can now Read, Clear & Diagnose Trouble Codes without the expensive diagnostic fees charged by dealerships or your local garage.







Flashpaq Tuner for Ford Gas Trucks -

KEY FEATURES

* Increased Horsepower and Torque
* Internet Updateable
* Easy Installation
* No Tools Necessary
* Improved Fuel Economy
* Optimized Driveability
* Diagnostic Trouble Code Reading Capability


ADDITIONAL FEATURES

* Update Tuner via the Internet for Latest Calibrations
* Available Data Acquisition at Flashpaq.com
* Adjust Shift Points, F-150 & Mk LT only
* Enhance Shift Firmness, F-150 & Mk LT only
* Eliminate Speed Limiter
* Recalibrate Speedo for Larger Tire 28"-40"
* Recalibrate Speed for Rear Gear changes, 3.08, 3.31, 3.55, 4.10, 4.30, 4.56, 4.88 & 5.13
* Adjust Rev Limits, F-150 only
* Choose from Three Available Performance Settings
* Superchips Tuning will work with Shorty Headers and Cat Back Exhaust


PERFORMANCE LEVELS

* Performance Tune: Up to 21 HP and 32 foot lbs torque*
* Performance Tow: Up to 11 HP and 11 foot lbs torque*
* 87 Octane: Up to 16HP and 17 foot lbs torque*

* Performance varies by application.
"All Superchips tuning products for gasoline-fueled vehicles are either covered under CARB Executive Order numbers or in a pending state."

 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fifty150
SF3 Power Flash Handheld Programmer
Part Number: 3015
Key Features:
• Latest Flash Technology
• Pre-Loaded with Dyno Proven Tune Files
• Reads / Clears DTC Trouble Codes
• User Adjustable Features
• Monitor Popular External Sensors
• 2008 Models Supported
• Built-In High Speed Datalogging
User Adjustable Features:
• WOT Fuel Adjustment • Idle RPM
• Spark Adjustment • Transmission Shift Points
• Axle Ratio • Fuel Injector Size
• Tire Size - Rev / Mile • Air Intake Selection
• Cooling Fan Temps • Traction Control On / Off
• Rev / Speed Limiters • Two StepOn / Off RPM
* Not all adjustments available on all vehicles
Pre-Loaded Dyno Proven Tune Files:
The SF3 arrives Pre-Loaded with DYNO Proven tune files that INCREASE HORSEPOWER, TORQUE and EVEN FUEL MILEAGE!
Large Backlit Screen:
With a HUGE Backlit display, the SCT SF3 Power Flash makes it EASY to read the Built-In Data Logging or Real Time Monitored Vehicle Data, view popular sensor data such as EGT, Air / Fuel Ratio or any other 0-5 Volt source via the Dual Input Analog port.
Read / Clear DTC Codes:
Using the SF3 Power Flash Device, you can now Read, Clear & Diagnose Trouble Codes without the expensive diagnostic fees charged by dealerships or your local garage.







Flashpaq Tuner for Ford Gas Trucks -

KEY FEATURES

* Increased Horsepower and Torque
* Internet Updateable
* Easy Installation
* No Tools Necessary
* Improved Fuel Economy
* Optimized Driveability
* Diagnostic Trouble Code Reading Capability


ADDITIONAL FEATURES

* Update Tuner via the Internet for Latest Calibrations
* Available Data Acquisition at Flashpaq.com
* Adjust Shift Points, F-150 & Mk LT only
* Enhance Shift Firmness, F-150 & Mk LT only
* Eliminate Speed Limiter
* Recalibrate Speedo for Larger Tire 28"-40"
* Recalibrate Speed for Rear Gear changes, 3.08, 3.31, 3.55, 4.10, 4.30, 4.56, 4.88 & 5.13
* Adjust Rev Limits, F-150 only
* Choose from Three Available Performance Settings
* Superchips Tuning will work with Shorty Headers and Cat Back Exhaust


PERFORMANCE LEVELS

* Performance Tune: Up to 21 HP and 32 foot lbs torque*
* Performance Tow: Up to 11 HP and 11 foot lbs torque*
* 87 Octane: Up to 16HP and 17 foot lbs torque*

* Performance varies by application.
"All Superchips tuning products for gasoline-fueled vehicles are either covered under CARB Executive Order numbers or in a pending state."

The price is similar. Have you had experience with both?
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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EASY! TRADE IT AND GET A 5.4 TRITON V-8!
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wookie13
EASY! TRADE IT AND GET A 5.4 TRITON V-8!
Your idea sucks!!!
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TXhustla
The price is similar. Have you had experience with both?

I have the X3 Power Flash with custom tunes by Mike Troyer.




Every Troyer Performance customer ordering this version of the X3 receives our complete Troyer Performance Custom Tuning Package, including:

1.) A set of 3 different Troyer Performance custom programs made specifically for your needs & desires, your individual vehicle’s modifications and factory configuration, as well as capabilities the owner desires in each separate program/tune (such as towing-capable or things like specific drag racing-oriented tunes, to the more typical daily driver/street performance tunes, “Bad Gas” tunes to protect the motor is case you get a bad tank of gas, “valet mode” capability, etc.).

2.) Phone consultation to help you determine what types of programs/tuning will be most appropriate for your individual vehicle, it’s modifications & your driving needs. You do NOT need to have any detailed vehicle knowledge, or know anything about tuning or modifying vehicles in order to competently select your custom tunes - we walk you thru all of that quickly & easily based on the information we ask you for during our phone consultation.

3.) Our detailed yet easy to understand (written for everyone from a first-time novice all the way up to the experienced datalogger) Troyer Performance step-by-step set of datalogging instructions for those who want or need to datalog in order for us to dial in the more complicated vehicle configurations on highly modified vehicles, or the newest vehicles where changes like an air intake kit can sometimes throw the Air-Fuel ratios off. This is provided to all our custom tuning customers whether they actually need to datalog their vehicle or not. Note: Datalogging is generally only required if you desire us to make changes to your custom engine tuning, or if the vehicle has modifications that are of a nature that require datalogging to properly finalize the tuning to dial it in spot-on. If you have any questions as to whether datalogging will actually be required for your individual vehicle, just give us a call at (540) 965-7123 and we'll be happy to go over that with you.

4.) Our Troyer Performance spreadsheet template for those who datalog using a hardware/software combination other than the X3 & SCT LiveLink software so you can output your data to us in a standardized format. (This is provided for those who will be datalogging, and using something other than the free LiveLink software that you get with the purchase of the X3).

5.) Our detailed yet simple to complete "fill in the blanks" Custom Program Worksheets, documenting all vehicle modifications in thorough detail, the vehicle’s configuration & maintenance analysis.

6.) Complete 7-10 page documentation of your specific Troyer Performance custom tuning, to include a thorough description of each of your custom programs, what type of uses each program is designed for & it’s fuel requirements. This documentation also includes numerous detailed installation tips & tricks about the X3 itself, notation of apparent outstanding vehicle issues, a detailed list of any additional upgrades we feel your vehicle may require based on it's specific modifications, types of uses, power levels, etc. We also provide thorough descriptions of multiple methods of how to easily determine the actual before & after performance results of ANY performance part or modification, as well as thorough advice on things such as fuel quality & fuel economy, specific areas of maintenance that require higher levels of service than the automaker's own maintenance schedules, and any other pertinent information we feel each individual vehicle owner needs to be made aware of, etc.

7.) The X3 has the ability to connect to your laptop or desktop PC for things like datalogging, email program updates, Internet firmware updates, etc.

8.) Manufacturer’s hardware documentation/installation instructions.

9.) Manufacturer’s Warranty on the X3.

10.) Pre-loaded tunes you can use right away (in the case of the 2004 & newer 5.4 3V F-150, these "canned" tunes can be used with the stock intake or the 3.0" Air Force One) while you are waiting for us to deliver your Troyer Performance CUSTOM tunes.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifty150
I have the X3 Power Flash with custom tunes by Mike Troyer.




Every Troyer Performance customer ordering this version of the X3 receives our complete Troyer Performance Custom Tuning Package, including:

1.) A set of 3 different Troyer Performance custom programs made specifically for your needs & desires, your individual vehicle’s modifications and factory configuration, as well as capabilities the owner desires in each separate program/tune (such as towing-capable or things like specific drag racing-oriented tunes, to the more typical daily driver/street performance tunes, “Bad Gas” tunes to protect the motor is case you get a bad tank of gas, “valet mode” capability, etc.).

2.) Phone consultation to help you determine what types of programs/tuning will be most appropriate for your individual vehicle, it’s modifications & your driving needs. You do NOT need to have any detailed vehicle knowledge, or know anything about tuning or modifying vehicles in order to competently select your custom tunes - we walk you thru all of that quickly & easily based on the information we ask you for during our phone consultation.

3.) Our detailed yet easy to understand (written for everyone from a first-time novice all the way up to the experienced datalogger) Troyer Performance step-by-step set of datalogging instructions for those who want or need to datalog in order for us to dial in the more complicated vehicle configurations on highly modified vehicles, or the newest vehicles where changes like an air intake kit can sometimes throw the Air-Fuel ratios off. This is provided to all our custom tuning customers whether they actually need to datalog their vehicle or not. Note: Datalogging is generally only required if you desire us to make changes to your custom engine tuning, or if the vehicle has modifications that are of a nature that require datalogging to properly finalize the tuning to dial it in spot-on. If you have any questions as to whether datalogging will actually be required for your individual vehicle, just give us a call at (540) 965-7123 and we'll be happy to go over that with you.

4.) Our Troyer Performance spreadsheet template for those who datalog using a hardware/software combination other than the X3 & SCT LiveLink software so you can output your data to us in a standardized format. (This is provided for those who will be datalogging, and using something other than the free LiveLink software that you get with the purchase of the X3).

5.) Our detailed yet simple to complete "fill in the blanks" Custom Program Worksheets, documenting all vehicle modifications in thorough detail, the vehicle’s configuration & maintenance analysis.

6.) Complete 7-10 page documentation of your specific Troyer Performance custom tuning, to include a thorough description of each of your custom programs, what type of uses each program is designed for & it’s fuel requirements. This documentation also includes numerous detailed installation tips & tricks about the X3 itself, notation of apparent outstanding vehicle issues, a detailed list of any additional upgrades we feel your vehicle may require based on it's specific modifications, types of uses, power levels, etc. We also provide thorough descriptions of multiple methods of how to easily determine the actual before & after performance results of ANY performance part or modification, as well as thorough advice on things such as fuel quality & fuel economy, specific areas of maintenance that require higher levels of service than the automaker's own maintenance schedules, and any other pertinent information we feel each individual vehicle owner needs to be made aware of, etc.

7.) The X3 has the ability to connect to your laptop or desktop PC for things like datalogging, email program updates, Internet firmware updates, etc.

8.) Manufacturer’s hardware documentation/installation instructions.

9.) Manufacturer’s Warranty on the X3.

10.) Pre-loaded tunes you can use right away (in the case of the 2004 & newer 5.4 3V F-150, these "canned" tunes can be used with the stock intake or the 3.0" Air Force One) while you are waiting for us to deliver your Troyer Performance CUSTOM tunes.
Have you had experience with the Superchip?
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Just the SCT X3 w/ custom tuning. I've never used the Superchips unit.
 
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Old May 4, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fifty150
Just the SCT X3 w/ custom tuning. I've never used the Superchips unit.
And you have a 4.2, v6??
 
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