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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 04heritage
Paging Raptor...paging Raptor...You assistance is needed...

20 hp from an exhaust is questionable on the 4.2. Maybe if you had heads, cam, P&P intake, and a fully built block with the stock exhaust.
HAHA yes we will need his assistance with this TOOL

Originally Posted by ParkM
Thats why it's called a custom exhaust, headers + high flow cats + X pipe + mufflers and you will see 20+

What do I know though I have a 4.6 with high flow cats + X + Spintech Pro Streets,I had a Magnaflow cat-back and when I switched I had hp gains over the whole rpm band.

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guess I shouldn't have stuck my nose where I know nothing about, I'm pretty much clueless when it comes to the 4.2. With a V8, you can easily see 20+ with long tubes though
First off you have a v8 its different ball game!

second they dont make long tubes for a 4.2, the mustang long tubes are supposed to fit and i have seen dyno number to prove that they add 20 hp , anything else is custom made!

third you are the v8 version of Raptor!

Bye bye
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Urrr...ummm.....
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 04heritage
Urrr...ummm.....
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 04heritage
Programmer first


If you want a new exhaust do what most do and buy a muffler that can be welded in place of the stock one. Much cheaper than a system and its the same thing.

First muffler I bought was a Bassani- $125, and instal was $125 to re run the exhaust in front of the tire. $250

Current system is a dual Cb extreme- $103 for both mufflers, $25 for mandrel 90* turn, and $245 for the install.
it is much cheaper your right... but it still dosent sound the same a duals... and it dont look as good either... i have 2.5 inch all the way back with a 2 in 2 out cherry bomb... and 4 inch tips... it sounds awesome at a certain rpm... once you get above that rpm you cant the duals at all... it sounds really good at about 10 in first 26-28 in 2nd 37-42 in 3rd and 60-70 in 4th... buit i dont what rpm that is but im sure its about the same rpm in all the gears...

now back to your question...

programmer will give you more performance... but i would go with an exhaust first because the programer will raze your egt's... and i no in a diesel egt's are important... but im not sure in a gas...

but i would go with an exhaust first just simply for that reason... but the only reason to go with an exhasut is to lower the egt's when you put the programer on it... therefore you will need a bigger exhaust...

thats the only way you will lower the egt's

but like i said in a diesel the egt's matter alot... but im not sure about gas... so i guess i will find out on the replys to this statement.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 04heritage
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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yeah, I will probably go with the exhaust w/ H or X pipes, still not sure about which pipes, but at least with exhaust i will get some performance along with sound and looks.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Get the tuner first for sure. You won't feel any difference with exhaust....unless you spend upwards of $1500 or so for a full custom exhaust with headers, etc, even then you will barely notice any difference on a big, heavy, pig of a truck. Waste of $ IMO.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Get the tuner first for sure. You won't feel any difference with exhaust....unless you spend upwards of $1500 or so for a full custom exhaust with headers, etc, even then you will barely notice any difference on a big, heavy, pig of a truck. Waste of $ IMO.
how can that be.... i put the duals on mine... and it sounds better and looks better and definetly made a diffrence... i could really tell... i odnt know what your talking about but im thinkin that your wrong... but thats just me sayin that.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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what the hell is that spose to mean? wow what an idiot
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
what the hell is that spose to mean? wow what an idiot

Because Ford's diesel EGT's are around 1300* and you thinking that a 4.2 gas engine will put out that kind of heat, and thinking gas engines have to worry about egt's.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
how can that be.... i put the duals on mine... and it sounds better and looks better and definetly made a diffrence... i could really tell... i odnt know what your talking about but im thinkin that your wrong... but thats just me sayin that.
Always get a programmer first.

And honestly that exhaust might have possibly gave you 5hp. Maybe. the sound of the exhaust gives you the impression that you got a "big seat of the pants gains"

Have you had a programmer? It will do much more than a exhaust will do.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Programmers can always have new tunes loaded to them for a fee. I got rid of my 87 MPG tune for a 87 performance tune. I paid $50, same as what Justin at VMP charges and I'm sure thats what Troyer charges.
 

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
how can that be.... i put the duals on mine... and it sounds better and looks better and definetly made a diffrence... i could really tell... i odnt know what your talking about but im thinkin that your wrong... but thats just me sayin that.
See post #27.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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id rather have a stock sound if mine were still naturally aspirated.

a v6 doesnt sound good.

my truck being turbo'd and all sounds pretty good for a 6 i guess.

but on a cold start where the rpms are high and its warming up it sounds awful.
 
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