Trans.- not on the sticky?

Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Trans.- not on the sticky?

Now I'm confused as hell , I can't remember why exactly , but I have been under the impression that I had the 4R70W for years - My door jam sticker reads -

WB/BRK/INT TR/TP PS
139- B- M2- ---


R/AXLE/TR/SPR
9- H9- E- 8N-


MANU. DATE - 07 98

I didn't see this one mentioned in the thread anywear - So I have the 4R100 ? or were those in the 99's on up as stated . I need a new one and just came pretty close to purchasing a remaned 4R70W - Glad I took a look at that sticker - and the sticky in this forum, was there some transitioning going on in 98?.........1998 F150 S-Cab, 4x4, 5.4L
 

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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TR code E means 4R100. If you want to make sure, the 4R70W has 14 bolts on the pan, the 4R100 has 20.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by casey_1
TR code E means 4R100. If you want to make sure, the 4R70W has 14 bolts on the pan, the 4R100 has 20.

Now it makes sense, Thanx (I counted 20 on the pan) - I just thought the 100 was on the HD - F & E models. My trans has been slipping , just from take off , Once I hit 15mph I can floor it and it won't slip a bit going threw the gears ?? Well 180k No tranny work on her yet so maybe it's spent or close to it.
Since I upgraded the injectors,wiring harness and installed new COP's the trucks been fun - more power than when I purchased it new from what I recall (very quick out of the hole, hits 3200 rpms - hang on lol). Been a little hard on the tranny I guess..Two months until profit sharing check, have to make it last. Looking for a deal like the one I seen last year on Ebay - 5.4L w/ 4R100 trans out of a van w/22k/2003model , they wanted eleven hundred for it - no comp. tho.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Yeah, not many from 97-01ish half tons got the heavy duty tranny. I *think* you have the 4R100 by your build date, but your right at the cutoff for the E4OD.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by adrianspeeder
Yeah, not many from 97-01ish half tons got the heavy duty tranny. I *think* you have the 4R100 by your build date, but your right at the cutoff for the E4OD.

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Well, I guess I should make sure then, according to your sticky (has been very useful, thanx for posting it) The E4OD wasn't available on the 5.4L(it isn't listed) I do have the overdrive lockout on the shifter , but that was on both models.
My question would be is there any distinguishing facts that would determine that I do indeed have the 4R100 vrs. the E4OD - What's different on the outside? Does the E4OD also have a 20 bolt count on the pan?

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Ooops, my bad, yes a few 97 and 97 F150s suck through with the 5.4L and E4OD. I'll update that stat. The 4R100 is basicly a twin brother from a different mother to the E4OD and has internal upgrades and different programming.

I am sorry, but I don't have an E4OD in the fleet to pick out any minor external differences against my 4R100 to tell ya.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by adrianspeeder
Ooops, my bad, yes a few 97 and 97 F150s suck through with the 5.4L and E4OD. I'll update that stat. The 4R100 is basicly a twin brother from a different mother to the E4OD and has internal upgrades and different programming.

I am sorry, but I don't have an E4OD in the fleet to pick out any minor external differences against my 4R100 to tell ya.

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Okay thanx - maybe someone else will chime in that may have went through this before .

Thanx for your imput -
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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The biggest difference between the E4OD and 4R100 is that the E4OD never had a bellhousing that would mate to the 4.6L/5.4L/6.8L modular pattern. The 4R100 never would mate to the old 302/351 pattern.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by casey_1
The biggest difference between the E4OD and 4R100 is that the E4OD never had a bellhousing that would mate to the 4.6L/5.4L/6.8L modular pattern. The 4R100 never would mate to the old 302/351 pattern.
That's what I needed know - The trucks powerplant is Fords modular 5.4L , with that said, I have the 4R100 - Now all that I need to know (lol) Is there a difference between the 4R100 2WD & 4WD ? Is there just one kind of 100 that fits both units. Is there a tag or maybe a stamped number on the trans I should look for?

Thanx again casey and speeder, you guys have been a great help...
 

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by casey_1
The biggest difference between the E4OD and 4R100 is that the E4OD never had a bellhousing that would mate to the 4.6L/5.4L/6.8L modular pattern. The 4R100 never would mate to the old 302/351 pattern.
Not quite, the E4OD was used with the 5.4L before the 4R100 was made with the switchover being right at when his truck was made.

And yes, any '77+ ford truck tranny has 2wd configurations to directly hook a driveshaft, and a 4wd configuration with a splined output shaft and mount for a transfer case. Can't be swapped without a complete teardown and rebuild

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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Well, tomorrow morning I'm going to clean that tranny up as much as possible, in hopes that I find some sort of identification. There has to be a way to tell.. If I don't find anything I'll take some pic's of the plugins, maybe that will be a giveaway of the models identity.
Programming is different along with some internal components, it's possible that the connectors differ, I dunno, lol
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Hi!!
I took some pics of my trans, hopefully someone will recognize this trans. Is it a 4R100 or E4OD ?




 

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Hey Found something -

A/T - 4R100 Orange Service Tag Service Procedure
Article No.
98-4-22
03/02/98

TRANSMISSION - 4R10O - SERVICE PROCEDURE FOR
ORANGE SERVICE TAGGED TRANSMISSIONS -
VEHICLES WITH 5.4L, 6.8L OR 7.3L ENGINE
LIGHT TRUCK:
1998 ECONOLINE, EXPEDITION, F-150, F-250 LD, NAVIGATOR
1999 SUPER DUTY F SERIES
This TSB article is being republished in its entirety to correct the vehicle application.

ISSUE:
Starting 1/5/98, the 4R100 transmission will be installed in the subject vehicles. Selected transmissions have an orange "PRIOR TO REPAIR" tag on the fluid pan. The orange tag refers to TSB 98-1-30. The information in this republished TSB article supersedes TSB 98-1-30. This TSB article includes specific instructions to be followed prior to replacement and/or repair and provides a toll-free telephone number to be used by all U.S. and Canadian dealers for further service direction. (Not applicable outside the U.S. or Canada.)
ACTION:
Prior to 6/30/98, do not disassemble these tagged 4R100 transmissions. Perform the following Diagnostic Procedure, record your findings and contact Ford Motor Company at the toll-free number listed below if there is a concern involving one of these orange tagged transmissions. After 6/30/98, follow the Service Manual diagnosis and repair procedures.



If there is a service concern involving one of the orange "Service-tagged transmissions" (Figure 1) call the toll-free number 1-800-543-8742 (U.S. and Canada) or 1-800-543-8743 (Ohio only) between the hours of 7:30AM and 4:00PM EST Monday through Friday. (A recorder is on 24 hours per day.)

DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE

Use the following procedure when servicing the orange tagged transmissions:

1. Check and record the transmission fluid level and condition.
a. If low, fill to the proper level and check for a leak.
b. If a pan gasket leak is the only concern, DO NOT call the toll-free number prior to the repair. Service as required.
2. Check the vehicle harness connectors for proper installation at the Digital Transmission Range (DTR) sensor, solenoid body case connector, and if equipped, Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS), Turbine Speed Sensor (TSS), and Output Shaft Speed (OSS) sensor.
3. Perform EEC system Quick Test and record all codes.
4. If no fault codes are present, go to Step 5. If fault codes are present, perform the required pinpoint tests as directed in the appropriate Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) Service Manual for any fault codes received. Repair all NON-transmission codes and verify transmission symptom still exists.
5. If the transmission symptom exists, refer to diagnosis by symptom in the Service Manual to determine if the concern is internal to the transmission.
NOTE : ALL DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION (FLUID LEVEL AND CONDITION, DIAGNOSTIC CODES, TEST RESULTS, TRANSMISSION CONCERN AND TRANSMISSION TAG IN FORMATION) MUST BE RECORDED BEFORE CALLING THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
6. If the transmission requires service, call Ford Motor Company toll-free at (800) 543-8742 between 7:30AM and 4:00PM EST (All U.S. Canada) or 1-800-543-8743 (Ohio only).
NOTE : DO NOT DISASSEMBLE ANY TRANSMISSION PRIOR TO CALLING THIS TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: NONE

SUPERSEDES: 98-1-30

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under The Provisions Of Bumper To Bumper Warranty Coverage

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME

980422A Perform Electronic 1.3 Hrs.
Transmission Diagnosis
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
7000 42
OASIS CODES: 501000, 502000, 503000, 503300, 504000, 510000, 590000
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Check this out -

https://www.f150online.com/galleries...075&anum=10939
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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I hope it's safe to say that I have the 4R100 trans - My build date is in July

Any doubt''s ?
 
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