'04 fx4 tranny service, any tips

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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'04 fx4 tranny service, any tips

it calls for 13.9 quarts, and i'm wondering about a drain plug on the torque converter. i'm not too worried flushing the system. i'm the only driver the fluid is clear and not burned. installing a drain plug in the pan and switching to synthetic fluid.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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CLICK HERE for the method I use to change the fluid.

Your truck doesn't have a drain plug in the torque converter. Ford stopped installing them early in the 2002 model year.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Do a full flush outlined above. You'll only get some of the fluid with just a pan drop.

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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thanks guys, but there were some discrepencies there...

according to my owners manual. i'm pretty sure i have an e4od transmission according to service write ups and my window sticker. the owners' manual says capacity is 13.9 quarts and to use mercon v. i'm shopping for mercon v synthetic if they make it yet. also do you guys know where i should install the pan drain plug? appreciate the help.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Ummm no, the E4OD was done in 98.

What does your door jam code sticker say? A is the 4R70w and needs Mercon V. B is the 4R75e which is the new tranny for these new trucks, so im not sure on the fluid.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Be advised that there's a thermal bypass valve on the '04+ F150 that doesn't allow cooler flow until something like 195* F. So, fluid will not flow to the cooler until it's ripping hot, meaning that if you try the method above, I think you're going to make a big mess in a best case scenario, with varying degrees of pain from scorching hot fluid, and in a worst case scenario, starve the transmission of fluid. You may end up hanging around underneath the truck wondering where your fluid is, because it's not flowing through the cooler from the supply line unless the transmission is really, really hot. Ford intended for this to heat the fluid faster.

The easiest way is to go ahead and pony up for a shop that has a flush machine to do your service. I really, really dislike the aforementioned method for servicing a transmission, I just don't think it's a good idea. There's a thin line between everything being happy and then clutches turning into kitty hair in an automatic transmission.
 

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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oooo, didn't know that one, dang new fangled trucks...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
Be advised that there's a thermal bypass valve on the '04+ F150 that doesn't allow cooler flow until something like 195* F. So, fluid will not flow to the cooler until it's ripping hot,
That's partially true, mostly not true.

There is a bypass, and it's set fairly hot. The good news is that the bypass is located at the cooler. When the fluid is too cool to go through the cooler the bypass opens and the fluid is sent directly to the return line instead of the cooler. For purposes of the trans flush this isn't a problem. You will get full flow at the return line no matter what the trans fluid temp is.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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The bypass valve is inline of the lines coming off the transmission, not at the cooler. I still think this method of flushing ain't the best idea.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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anyone want to buy the drain plug kit?

i'll call my dealer and see what a service costs. so if it blows up they can pay for the new one. i have far to much to do that i don't need to spend all day on this mess. my friend had his infinity done for $125. its going to cost me more for the oil and filter plus my time. keep my hands and shop floor clean. drink 2 cups of coffee while i wait at the dealer seems to be best bet.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Yeah, with these new fangled, cant work on em yourself trucks, that looks like a better deal. Real shame ya can't even do basic stuff yourself anymore. Heck, you should see how hard it is to do an oil change on my uncles BMW Mini Cooper. Had to buy a special socket wrench thingie and he gets real funny looks when we ask for the BMW spec filter from the dealer.

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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BG Trans Flush

Just my O2

I work at a shop part time and the mechanic there is FORD certified out the a**. He has a trans flush machine and I think that is the way to go. Also, check out your local shops and see if any of them use BG products. They make different additives for the trans, the motor and other things. I know for the trans, if you get a BG trans flush before 36k, and a BG trans flush every 30k after that, if something goes wrong with the tranny(a lubricated part) BG will cover repairs or replacement up to $2,000. If you do it after 36k they will give you up to a $1,000 dollars for repairs. You can also get a BG oil change and if something goes wrong with your motor they will cover so much $$$ for that too.
Check into it, it might be something worth doing and maybe someone on here knows more about BG products than I do to help out with any questions you might have.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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I used a BG machine to service mine. I don't necessarily agree with all their products and their marketing, but that's another thread. The BG setup is the only one I've got experience with, and it works pretty well.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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I didn't know that there was an actual BG machine.?? I only knew of the additives. Where I work, the machanic has a trans flush machine and uses the BG trans products when he does the flush. I believe 1 goes in before, a cleaner, you have to let it run and get the tranny hot to allow it to work. Then you do the flush and when the new tranny fluid level is good, at the end you add the BG trans additive. For the oil change, 1 can of additive goes into the fuel tank(helps cut down on carbon build-up, I believe), and the other gets added to the crank case after the oil change is complete.

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