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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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5th wheel with a super-crew?

Is the box just too short or will this work. I am looking at a few different campers
 
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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I would say it is to short. Most 5th wheel hitches should be right above or slightly in front of the axle. They do make sliding hitches, but I think it would still be to close when you turn sharp...
 
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Don't know if this is a "true" photo or not, but check out this thread from some time ago.

SCrew with a fifth wheel

The top of the fifth wheel actually goes OVER the cab. Cool idea, but I think it's too heavy for an F150..............
 
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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Hi DTS

I know what your asking...i dont know the answer.

You might like to ck. out...

www.PullRite.com

8OO/443-2307

SuperGlide 5th wheel hitch.(slider) Has some unique features. May or maynot work for you?

Good luck...OT
 
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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some manufactures (keystone rv) make fifthwheel trailers targeted at 1/2 ton trucks . the cougar for one . i have installed many hitches in short beds . you just need to watch your turn radius . i would suggest a sliding hitch that can be slide back for manuvering .
 
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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The site with the Titanium TT is legit. I saw roughly the same version of it at the Cleveland RV show in January. Keep in mind the weight of the trailer comes into play when your all loaded out. The one I saw had a gross weight of 8300lbs, that's about 300 more than FoMoCo. says you should have on it! At least on my truck anyway. I think the trailer weighed in at 6300lbs. empty. I know it'll pull it anyway.

I also saw a version of the pull right(sp?) 5th wheel hitch. When your driving forward, the assembly is locked in tight, closer to the cab. When you need to back up, you pull a lever and the king pin plate slides back up to 18", allowing increased manuverability. Either way, you can get a 5th wheel trailer (up to 24-26') and not have to move to a superduty!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 11:41 PM
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Thumbs up can be done 5th with super crew! have seen it! (owner happy)

Well I have been told DON't do it I have been told it can not be done should not be done! , but I met a fella out in Colorado Springs CO (also my home) who pulled up next to me at the RV dealer with supercrew set up with a beautiful new 5th wheel set up with the adjustable slide hitch (he said as of yet he has not had to use it in the slid back position, I did ask him to mail me a picture , because I was very impressed with the set up! , and he did I will have to did around to find it , and then find someone with a good scanner , but if I do I will post a picture her on F150 on line ! ,
I am looking very close at a 29' Holiday rambler (no slide) Travel trailer that has about a 6,300lb dry wt. will look into recommended weights , I see that another member here with a f150 super crew 5.4 is pulling a 7,000 lb rig, and would like to here comments from other who have had success! I know I will here alot of ney sayers! there is absolutly no shortage of those available everywhere I go , But I really would like to here something back from thoses who actually have pulled 6,000 and up this would be a rare occurance probly 5-6 times a year on short vacation trips, I did pull about 5,000 and full truck 5 passangers last summer from Mi to Co and it did awsome! not so much as a hickup! and this was in 80 +90 deg weather! and over hills and passes, and was quite happy over all , thanks , Dan
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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Keep one thing in mind. Ford's towing guide says No to 5th wheel towing on a Screw.
Make sure you auto insurance and RV insurance company agree it's okay before you buy.
It should be okay with a slider, but Ford dosen't want to assume any liability when it comes to the RV swinging around and damaging the truck.
It's not so much whether it can be done, it's a matter of will you be insured in case of an accident. You might find the insurance companies walking away if you disregarded Ford's recommendation of no 5'vrs.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Post Insurance good point!

Linetest, Very good point you bring up INSURANCE , always very important to make sure you are covered sufficently in case something goes wrong, ask lots of questions with your insurance broker, and create unexpected situations in you mind and see how the insurance agent answers your questions, be specific about details , and make sure you have enough coverage to cover your rig , lord knows how much money you can get tied up into theses things! It is scarry how much money we have into our "toys" life is short play hard!

Linetest , do you drive a Super crew? , if so what is the most you would feel comfortable towing? I would have loved to see FORD offer a Turbo Diesel option , but I am not sure how soon that is going to happen , shure would have helped the fuel millage. I see they were trying to do something for 2004??

Ps are you a lineman for Utilities? I work for Co Springs Utilities
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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No, I have an extended cab which I bought over the Screw as I'm still contemplating whether I want a 5th wheel or TT. I plan on towing no more than 6500lbs wet and loaded. I beleive in the 20% safety margin when caculating safe tow capacity from rated tow capacity. My 5'vr options are limited because of that, but Jayco makes a couple I like.
That Titanium ad jerks my chain, posing for a photo is different then pulling the thing up/down hills and around corners. Damn dangerous and overweight. Gives people the impression they can do it. RV sales don't care what happens after the check clears. RV'ing is about fun and enjoying the journey while keeping you and your family safe.
These F150's have a decent wheelbase, but not enough to tow some of these big RV's. I could go on and on. Anyway, 6500lbs for me will be the max.
I don't think I'll ever get into a deisel because of up front cost and availability of competant technicians for servicing (in my area).
No, I'm not a lineman. I got the nickname a while ago while setting up some computer modems from temporary accounts. It just stuck with me.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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Another thing with the 5th wheels is the height. I posted the link to the Titamium and I would love to have one but look at the extra height. I think ford also lists the frontage maximum for Towing and I am sure this trailer will exceed it. I tow a 31 foot trailer with my Supercrew and have towed this trailer for many thousands of miles. I love the truck for the way it tows. I had towed a 23 foot with our Supercab with 4.6L. It did the job but the 5.4L really snorts along. Gas milage sucks while towing. The real disadvantage is the overall lenght I have with the 31 foot. I am over 50 ft in total lenght. Two years ago we toured the atlantic provinces of Canada including Prince Edward Island. We pulled into gas stations that where so small that I could not go around the pumps and had to pull in fill up and then back out onto the road as I could not go around the pumps. I have filled up before with the trailer sitting out into an intersection of a corner gas bar.
I have no problem if you stick to the Interstates the service centers and the Cracker Barrels etc with Bus an RV parking and stay away from New England Maine etc.
In this regard I could get a 5th wheel with the same space and be 6 to 10 ft shorter and I would love it but I will be heavier and catch more wind. Also the tonque weight on my trailer is helped with the equalizers. On the Titamium 5th wheel the pin weight is 1300Lbs. That is 1300Lbs right in the box so even if you don't exceed the Gross Combined weight the truck would be overloaded by the time I throw in 3 teenagers my self and wife and dog as well as personal stuff.

My 31 foot trailer is suppose to have a 5600Lb dry weight but that does not include a 22 fot awning 2 propane tanks hitch torsion and sway bars spare tire tools etc. So I am propably between 7000lb to 8000lb loaded but have not weighed it.
 

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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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I agree about frontal area and drag. I was looking at the Jayco 5'vr because it does not have a standup front master. Kind of a duck and climb into bed kinda setup. But it has a small nose. It trims out at about 29 ft length, probabably 26 or a little less behind the truck. Funny you should mention New England...definately a destination for us, especially Maine :-).
Tounge on the Jayco is 1055, bring it close, but acceptable. The math works for the truck, but doesn't work with my checkbook yet.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Hi Guys

Good to see your getting together on important issues.

Amazing how many dont really know how much their trucks/TT etc. wt. If you were to take the time to go weigh....Cat. certified scales are usually very good. Its pretty cheap to do. I think you might be surprised how much everything weights.

Takes the guess work out. Makes for a safer tow/haul trip, not only for you/yours, but for mine and everyone else whos on the road.

Do it right the first time, and if your lucky, it will work for you. Lucky because even when you do it all right, theres always that rig behind and in front of you. Geez, the stuff ive seen out there!

Be safe, good luck, and keep it on the road.

OT
 
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