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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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*IF* I wanted a 30' TT, I'd get a 5er and a Super Duty to pull it with. I'm not saying that a F-150 can't tow a big bumper pull, I'm saying that it's not the "right" way to go.
Your entitled to your opinion. Just keep in mind that today's 1/2 tons have come a long way since your 2003 Ford in your Sig.. In *my opinion* my truck is more than capable of towing my trailer and i definitely feel that i made the *RIGHT* decision.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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I'm not even trying to compare today's trucks to mine. The biggest thing I've ever towed with mine is a 5x8 enclosed cargo trailer, and I have no intention of towing anything bigger. In fact, I'm seriously considering buying a car and parking the truck, just using it for Home Depot and dump runs. Why even keep the truck? It's in good shape and the book value now is less than $2000. If I want to go somewhere and bring my house with me, I'll rent a RV.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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I'm not even trying to compare today's trucks to mine. The biggest thing I've ever towed with mine is a 5x8 enclosed cargo trailer, and I have no intention of towing anything bigger. In fact, I'm seriously considering buying a car and parking the truck, just using it for Home Depot and dump runs. Why even keep the truck? It's in good shape and the book value now is less than $2000. If I want to go somewhere and bring my house with me, I'll rent a RV.
If the truck is paid for then its worth keeping for when you need it. As to the OP's question about whether or not the new Ecoboost F150 is a good match for his trailer, since the most you have towed is a 5x8 cargo trailer maybe its not such a good idea to be giving advice on what truck he might need or is *right* for the job??
P.S. Rv (motorhome) rentals are not cheap!!!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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Just because I don't tow with MY truck doesn't necessarily mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Anyone can do the math.

By the way, the OP has already ordered a F-250.

Well we spent a season towing the 25 foot with the EcoBoost - However, we are either right on the gross raiting of the truck payload wise or over. Now we traded the 25' foot for a 30', much heavier and hearvier hitch weight. So, we tried the Ecoboos absolutly no issue with power et al. But when things are loaded, us included - way over payload of the truck. So, we are selling the truck to a neighbor, our one year cost less fuel and insurance $1,350.00. And we ordered a 2012 F250 Diesel Lariet, pretty well loaded.

I am one who would rather be safe than sorry.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Just for the record he would have been fine with the HD pkg F150 Ecoboost with a max load of 8,800lb on his trailer. But now if he ever wants to upgrade his trailer size in the future he has plenty of room to do so.
To the OP best of luck with the new truck!!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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He also has the option of upgrading to a 5th wheel. When you start getting into the bigger TT's, a 5er is a much more stable tow and a 1/2 ton doesn't have the payload capacity for anything except a very light one.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
*IF* I wanted a 30' TT, I'd get a 5er and a Super Duty to pull it with. I'm not saying that a F-150 can't tow a big bumper pull, I'm saying that it's not the "right" way to go.
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Honestly, you would be much better off with a Super Duty towing that kind of load. You probably wouldn't even need the diesel, I'd bet the 6.2 gasser would tow it fine unless you go out west into the REAL mountains.
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The EB has plenty of power to tow heavy. I would use premium fuel while towing, and definitely use tow/haul mode on the tranny. You need a proper weight distribution hitch.
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I'm not even trying to compare today's trucks to mine. The biggest thing I've ever towed with mine is a 5x8 enclosed cargo trailer, and I have no intention of towing anything bigger.
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He also has the option of upgrading to a 5th wheel. When you start getting into the bigger TT's, a 5er is a much more stable tow and a 1/2 ton doesn't have the payload capacity for anything except a very light one.
Thats a lot of advice from someone who has never pulled a camper before...


 
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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Thats a lot of advice from someone who has never pulled a camper before...
Like I said:

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Just because I don't tow with MY truck doesn't necessarily mean I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Thats a lot of advice from someone who has never pulled a camper before...


 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 05:33 AM
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Posted it somewhere on here or on another forum, but I figured out rougly a 10 year old F250 with a 5.4 is rated lower than most new F150's with the eco or 6.2 ( or some older 5.4's) with the only loss being in payload capability from the factory. 3/4 ton would be better, but the F150 will do it pretty well. Set of airbags, overloads, or something like the Roadmaster kit and it will support the weight fine. It took over 20 yrs of hard farm work with my the '91 that grandpa sold me for a crack to form over the rear axle. And by heavy, many times it had up to 8 head in an 18' gooseneck cattle trailer. While with a full trailer they were never long trips, I'm sure pin weight was over 3k at times and it didn't even hit the bumpers yet. I know he should have had a 3/4 or 1 ton but at the time you could get overloads from the factory, and the F150 road smoother. Something 20yrs newer, and far heavier built they should not have a problem operating at the rated weight and a little above. Only real fix on these is the spungy rear suspension they offer nothing from the dealer for anymore. Good luck, and with a little respect while towing you will be fine. Soft suspension and spongy tires will make you the most 'uneasy' while towing.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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i dont know if i have the 3.15's or the 3.33's but I'm planning ion buying a 30' trailer with a weight of apprx 7,300lbs. it might be a while but I'll let you know how it goes. First I need to figure out if I need to chip her to do this... In case I have issues, I'll have my pops tow her for me to his spot. If this is the case anyone know where I can get some new gears for a 2012 4x4 Eco? I'm new to the truck scene and recently put my baby (550whp STI) up for sale. Once she sells, I'm buying me a trailer!! =)
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Addressed in your thread in the V6 forum.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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To glc: Unless you've been there and done it...it would be best to read and not type about what you think will or will not work.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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I'm so happy for you that you are successfully towing a 5th wheel with a 5.5' bed and are probably over one or more of the ratings of your truck. I'll continue to advise against things like this no matter what you or anyone else thinks.

"I" will decide what's best for me, not you or anyone else. You know what they say about opinions and I will continue to express mine, and I don't have to justify them.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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Just as an example....

Max Tow package on my current truck is rated for 1900lbs payload. Were looking at a Wildcat extralite 282rks. Hitch weight is around 1200-1300lbs. Leaves around 600-700lbs for people, gear, hitch etc. At the end of the day, we are within limits of our truck... now the sad part is the trailer only weighs in at 7900lbs unloaded. So yes an ecoboost can tow a fifth wheel safely and probably very stable as well.

You can also grab the heavy duty payload package which gains 400lbs payload for 2300lbs total payload on an ecoboost... the answer is definitely yes you can tow heavy with the ecoboost and it is legal and safe to do, so long as you watch your weights and don't do something stupid like pulling a 40ft fifth wheel.
 
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