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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Difference between 4wd and 2wd

Quick question, I'm looking for new shocks because its that time and mine have gone 200k. I'm looking to put in a set of bilsteins that will level off the truck, I have found a set for the 4wd version but nothing for 2wd. is there any difference between the two or can I get away with it? Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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I am looking over our level system for a 2WD (2004-08) compared to the 4WD it looks like it is height and a parts pack. For the rear different mounting/bushing codes as well. HTH!
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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hmm so I'm wondering what I need to do to make it work. Looking at the bilstein shocks it looks like all they include is the 4 shocks and that's it. looks like I would need to call them and inquire. I mainly want to be able to fit 35s in there and have it leveled to take out in the desert or more remote areas to access trailheads cant afford a full suspension lift nor would I want one until I get a 4wd.
 

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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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Unfortunately, you can't put 35s on a 2WD. There's no way to make them fit without a full lift, as they barely fit leveled 4x4s. 33x12.5s can rub a good bit on leveled 2WDs. And if you did put 35s on, you would have absolutely NO space in your fenders to drive on anything other than a perfectly flat road in a straight line.

Says these fit my 06 2WD: I know they make them for 2WD trucks.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wheelpar...view_Container
 

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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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thanks for the info, I found 35s for for the same as 33's hence the idea. Thanks for stopping that unneeded expense. So 33" it is, now if I wasn't on a tight budget.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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thanks for the info, I found 35s for for the same as 33's hence the idea. Thanks for stopping that unneeded expense. So 33" it is, now if I wasn't on a tight budget.
Yeah, I never understood tire prices. My 35s for 20s cost more than 35s for 17s, yet mine have much less rubber . . . same with 33s versus 35s. Makes no sense! If only we all had unlimited funds for truck parts, right? Haha

Do you have stock or aftermarket wheels? 275/60/20 (33.0x10.8") is a really good size for a leveled 2WD for 20" wheels. That's what I had before the lift. Any of my pictures of the truck on here without the lift had those tires if you want reference. They fit well and are much, much cheaper than wider or taller tires. 275/65/20 (34") tires are $100 extra per tire, same for 295mm+ wide tires. Whole set of all terrain tires from Cooper in that size are $800 out the door, even less for 18s. Same for the BFG Rugged Terrains I had, but I don't recommend those. 275/70/18 is the equivalent size for 18s. 17s I don't know an equivalent off the top of my head, but 275/75/17 would be the size if they make it.
 

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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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For the 04-08: 4wd have a 1" longer shocks then the 2wd.
ad you can just put them on and have the 4wd stock front height.

So a 4wd strut and leveling kit on a 2wd will end up in the same height as a leveled 4wd

The spindle have the same height and "wheel center" position. only that the 2wd dont have the hole and monting surface for the 4wd bearing and axle shaft

in your case: a 4wd front strut will level out the truck.
For 35" you should add the 4wd front leveling kit, and stock 4wd rear lifting block and u-bolt(depending on if your 2wd have the block or not already).
 

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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Yeah, I never understood tire prices. My 35s for 20s cost more than 35s for 17s, yet mine have much less rubber . . . same with 33s versus 35s. Makes no sense! If only we all had unlimited funds for truck parts, right? Haha
It has more to do with production vs. amount of material used.

They can charge less per tire for a size that they produce tens of thousands.

Production costs are much more per tire if they are only producing a couple hundred of them.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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It has more to do with production vs. amount of material used.

They can charge less per tire for a size that they produce tens of thousands.

Production costs are much more per tire if they are only producing a couple hundred of them.
I do believe that for a lot of it, but that can't be the only reason. I'd bet Toyo/Nitto sells as much or more 35x12.5x20 tires than 35x12.5x17 tires.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
Yeah, I never understood tire prices. My 35s for 20s cost more than 35s for 17s, yet mine have much less rubber . . . same with 33s versus 35s. Makes no sense! If only we all had unlimited funds for truck parts, right? Haha

Do you have stock or aftermarket wheels? 275/60/20 (33.0x10.8") is a really good size for a leveled 2WD for 20" wheels. That's what I had before the lift. Any of my pictures of the truck on here without the lift had those tires if you want reference. They fit well and are much, much cheaper than wider or taller tires. 275/65/20 (34") tires are $100 extra per tire, same for 295mm+ wide tires. Whole set of all terrain tires from Cooper in that size are $800 out the door, even less for 18s. Same for the BFG Rugged Terrains I had, but I don't recommend those. 275/70/18 is the equivalent size for 18s. 17s I don't know an equivalent off the top of my head, but 275/75/17 would be the size if they make it.
They don't sell as many= higher price.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by aussiekeeper
They don't sell as many= higher price.
Did you read this?

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I do believe that for a lot of it, but that can't be the only reason. I'd bet Toyo/Nitto sells as much or more 35x12.5x20 tires than 35x12.5x17 tires.
I doubt it's purely volume of sales.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 02:06 AM
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ended up going with 33s on my old rims, Not super happy with it but its a 2wd and 190k miles on it so I'll deal until I get a 4wd. Just needs new struts and maybe an lsd as right now I can normally out do my friend in his 4wd tundra that is all kitted out. Thanks maxpat, I think I might go the route getting the rear blocks and 4wd leveling struts.

Thanks for the advice.


Edit: Just to be really clear, I can use the 4wd bilsteins and the rear riser blocks, correct?
 

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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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to my understanding: Yes.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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I'm also under the impression that the 4x4 struts would work. You wouldn't need to crank them at all though, because they should already be 2" taller than the shocks in your truck now. Could always just get any new shock that's guaranteed to fit your 2WD and stick a level on top though.

2" added in the front and 2" blocks in the back would look good. That's how my white 2006 2WD used to be set up with 33s. Pics in my album would give you a darn good idea for how yours will look.

Truck looks good too!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Sweet, than I think I'm gonna go with the 4wd bilsteins and some rear risers. To add the risers do I need to buy new shackles or can I pull them off a junked 4wd. Are there any other incidental parts that need to be swapped/purchased or is it just the struts. Also I need to add tow hooks to the front that wont bend or pull out as nothing is currently there. Can I pull the OE ones of a junked one or go with aftermarket? Gonna see if I can get two welded on my hitch for the rear. They would be used for snatching and winching for rescue, now looking for show truck just ones that get the job done.
 
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