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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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question about running 37's

if i am going to get the rize 8 inch kit and run 37's on my truck (a 2008 f150 4x4) i would think i would need to re-gear. but i think that is alot of money. is there other ways around that. like i have heard about the edge evo tuner, would that solve the problem without having to re-gear. thanks for your help guys.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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no, there is NO way around regearing. w/ 37'' tires, you will eventually blow the transmission. if you then proceed to rebuild it w/o regearing, you will be on your way to blowing it again. i speak from knowledge backed by the personal experiences of friends of mine. an edge tuner isn't worth a sh*t for one, and for two, computer adjustments cannot be made to compensate for the realized increase in your gear ratio due to the oversize tires.

also, a rebuild is ~$2000 on an automatic transmission. that is still more expensive than regearing.
 

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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yup, re-gear. I'df also suggest losing the stock LS (if you have it) and upgranding to a clutchless Limited Slip differential. Will help in traction over the long run.

Looks like you'll be needing some 4.88's here soon ! post up some pics when its all said and done
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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no, there is NO way around regearing. w/ 37'' tires, you will eventually blow the transmission. if you then proceed to rebuild it w/o regearing, you will be on your way to blowing it again. i speak from knowledge backed by the personal experiences of friends of mine. an edge tuner isn't worth a sh*t for one, and for two, computer adjustments cannot be made to compensate for the realized increase in your gear ratio due to the oversize tires.

also, a rebuild is ~$2000 on an automatic transmission. that is still more expensive than regearing.
thanks for the info. do you know how much $ it is for a regearing? and what gears should be put in?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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on a 4WD truck you have to do BOTH axles, hence the increased expense. expect to pay around $1500 for a quality job. you would be best going w/ 4.88's, front and rear for your intended application. like MT posted, you may also look into replacing your stock limited slip.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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thanks for the info. do you know how much $ it is for a regearing? and what gears should be put in?
Remember to tell em your front gears are 8.8" IFS axle with Reverse cut gears.

$1500 is about average, and you going to need a new carrier in the rear if you go with the 4.88's I believe, so, perfect chance to get an upgrade with either a clutchless LS, or a locker. So, your probably looking at closer to $2,000


Definately go with 4.88's .
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Remember to tell em your front gears are 8.8" IFS axle with Reverse cut gears.

$1500 is about average, and you going to need a new carrier in the rear if you go with the 4.88's I believe, so, perfect chance to get an upgrade with either a clutchless LS, or a locker. So, your probably looking at closer to $2,000


Definately go with 4.88's .
ok well after hearing that, im gonna have to get some more $ together haha. thats always the problem. but yea i want to do it right so its better to wait. thanks for all the help guys
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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No problem ! Its what this site is for ! Glad your doing it right too. The gears is definately a "hidden" expense a lot of people don't consider before hand.

Make sure to post up some pics once its lifted and lookin purdy !
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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No problem ! Its what this site is for ! Glad your doing it right too. The gears is definately a "hidden" expense a lot of people don't consider before hand.

Make sure to post up some pics once its lifted and lookin purdy !
yea i figured that would set me back haha. yea i will put some pics up when i get it done. hopefully soon haha
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Yes, 4.88s are going to be needed. This is coming from a guy that tried to get by with 3.73s and 37s. The 4.88s will help save your transmission. It takes a lot of the load off of it. Also, don't waste your money with the Edge. I'd go with a custom tuned Xcal2 from VMPTuning.com. I also bought the Edge and had numerous problems with the tuning. My torque convertor would violently lock and unlock around 65-72 mph, it was horrible as well as other things.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Yes, 4.88s are going to be needed. This is coming from a guy that tried to get by with 3.73s and 37s. The 4.88s will help save your transmission. It takes a lot of the load off of it. Also, don't waste your money with the Edge. I'd go with a custom tuned Xcal2 from VMPTuning.com. I also bought the Edge and had numerous problems with the tuning. My torque convertor would violently lock and unlock around 65-72 mph, it was horrible as well as other things.
ok thanks. yea ill look into the Xcal2
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 04:37 AM
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Yes, 4.88s are going to be needed. This is coming from a guy that tried to get by with 3.73s and 37s. The 4.88s will help save your transmission. It takes a lot of the load off of it. Also, don't waste your money with the Edge. I'd go with a custom tuned Xcal2 from VMPTuning.com. I also bought the Edge and had numerous problems with the tuning. My torque convertor would violently lock and unlock around 65-72 mph, it was horrible as well as other things.
hey so what happened when you did not re-gear your truck. did you end up blowing your transmission?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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it was probably vastly underpowered, and shifted very irregularly. like i said, eventually the trans will fail if you do not regear.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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hey so what happened when you did not re-gear your truck. did you end up blowing your transmission?
Like minimonster said. The truck was a slug, it shifted sloppy, it was only a matter of time before something gave out. Got to remember that's a whole lot of rotational mass compared to a stock tire and wheel.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Like minimonster said. The truck was a slug, it shifted sloppy, it was only a matter of time before something gave out. Got to remember that's a whole lot of rotational mass compared to a stock tire and wheel.
yea it is. a lot of lift shops have told me you dont have to re-gear. but then i have had some that have told me you do have to. i guess that shows the quality of the shop haha
 
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