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Originally Posted by Memo21687
From what I have heard from people and reputable lift shops and big name off-road warehouses....National Springs are junk...no offence or anything
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Originally Posted by Memo21687
and one more thing this guy I know with an 05 Supercrew with 9-10" Nationals snapped on him twice during normal driving. His truck never touched the dirt.
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
Why do you say Deaver didn't want to make what you wanted? I talked to them about building a custom set of leafs and they were more than helpful. . 
I said that because of the conversations I had with them. I wish I had kept the e-mails as they would prove what I am saying. I don't care if anyone believes what I say. They kept telling me they would take a set of 4" leaf springs and re-arch them for a total of 5"-6" of lift. I told them that I wanted to stay as close to the stock payload / towing capacities as possible with a true 6" lift. That was not something they wanted to do for me. I am not trying to bash Deaver. I know their reputation and the quality of the work they do. They, for some reason did not want to work with me. End of debate.
For the record.... I was quoted $647 for the 4" springs by Deaver. I was told $800 for the re-arched version without getting me the specs I wanted. So $800 for the springs. Bushings are what $45? Let's see, $845 for the springs and then they need to be shipped. UPS is roughly $150 from CA to NH for ground service. Now that's $995. I paid $1055 (shipped) for my springs. They are only a 25% reduction in the total towing / payload capacity of my truck. I am sorry people don't like National Springs. I gave them a shot. Oh well if it's the wrong choice. Live and learn. Having custom stuff made is a crap shoot. No guarantees. I accept that!
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Originally Posted by alchemy
This is going to be a long post....
I said that because of the conversations I had with them. I wish I had kept the e-mails as they would prove what I am saying. I don't care if anyone believes what I say. They kept telling me they would take a set of 4" leaf springs and re-arch them for a total of 5"-6" of lift. I told them that I wanted to stay as close to the stock payload / towing capacities as possible with a true 6" lift. That was not something they wanted to do for me. I am not trying to bash Deaver. I know their reputation and the quality of the work they do. They, for some reason did not want to work with me. End of debate.
For the record.... I was quoted $647 for the 4" springs by Deaver. I was told $800 for the re-arched version without getting me the specs I wanted. So $800 for the springs. Bushings are what $45? Let's see, $845 for the springs and then they need to be shipped. UPS is roughly $150 from CA to NH for ground service. Now that's $995. I paid $1055 (shipped) for my springs. They are only a 25% reduction in the total towing / payload capacity of my truck. I am sorry people don't like National Springs. I gave them a shot. Oh well if it's the wrong choice. Live and learn. Having custom stuff made is a crap shoot. No guarantees. I accept that!
Is that a good enough answer?
I said that because of the conversations I had with them. I wish I had kept the e-mails as they would prove what I am saying. I don't care if anyone believes what I say. They kept telling me they would take a set of 4" leaf springs and re-arch them for a total of 5"-6" of lift. I told them that I wanted to stay as close to the stock payload / towing capacities as possible with a true 6" lift. That was not something they wanted to do for me. I am not trying to bash Deaver. I know their reputation and the quality of the work they do. They, for some reason did not want to work with me. End of debate.
For the record.... I was quoted $647 for the 4" springs by Deaver. I was told $800 for the re-arched version without getting me the specs I wanted. So $800 for the springs. Bushings are what $45? Let's see, $845 for the springs and then they need to be shipped. UPS is roughly $150 from CA to NH for ground service. Now that's $995. I paid $1055 (shipped) for my springs. They are only a 25% reduction in the total towing / payload capacity of my truck. I am sorry people don't like National Springs. I gave them a shot. Oh well if it's the wrong choice. Live and learn. Having custom stuff made is a crap shoot. No guarantees. I accept that!
Is that a good enough answer?
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The truck is getting done as we speak. It should be done on thusday. I am jacked! Pictures are coming... 
The National spring thing does not scare me. Things break! Custom or not! I would have left my truck stock if I was concerned with stuff breaking. It's all good!
The National spring thing does not scare me. Things break! Custom or not! I would have left my truck stock if I was concerned with stuff breaking. It's all good!
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