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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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superlift????

has anyone out here used a 4-5" superlift? I was told that it was a pretty good lift, and it is pretty cheap. The same person also said I could put a 2.5 inch leavling kit on top of the kit.. That would be higher then the fabtech 6"? Just wondering what your thoughts are on the subject.. thanks
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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imo i would stay away from superlift
their products arent the quality of the other popular brands (rize, fabtech, rcd, sky-jacker, rancho)
thats one reason why we dont sell them any more
another is no one around here likes them,
too many ppl have had problems with them
& in our lil offroading community down here word gets around fast

majority of the lifts we sell are fabtech, rize, & rcd (in that order);
on 97-03 f150s rancho is the top selling & sky-jacker mainly for dodges & jeeps
 

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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ok sean_somer.................. I dont want to have a bunch of problems! I will probly go with the fabtech then. By the way my truck is a 06 screw xlt. Thanks for the help
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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no problem, glad to help
fabtech is a good lift
ive had fabtech lifts a few times (have one right now on a 01 supercab) & weve never had anyone come back with problems with them
imo, the only lift superior to fabtech for the 04 up f150s is the rize lifts
but they are quite a bit more than the fabtechs

what size lift are you looking for?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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im thinkin a 6 will work for what i want
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Sean could you elaborate on the problems superlift is having with the new 4.5 in. lift after watching the install on tv it looked like a pretty good lift.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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dadwillis...depending on your budget i suggest the fabtech 6", rcd 6", & depending on budget, the rize 6"
what kind of budget are you working with?

f150deer...when we first saw the lift we thought it was a great system also, but now we know better
the knuckles are quite easy to bend, subframe flexes easily, the steering tie rod is in contact with the coilspring during turning & articulation (watch the video you can see this), the skidplate doesnt do its job very well, ***** the factory skid plates do better than the superlift skid plate & the differential is left out in the open because the skidplate hugs the subframe & the differential tends to get caught up on things
the superlift fit lift is a well thought out & designed lift, BUT the overall quality of the product isnt comparable to other popular brands
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sean_somer
dadwillis...depending on your budget i suggest the fabtech 6", rcd 6", & depending on budget, the rize 6"
what kind of budget are you working with?

f150deer...when we first saw the lift we thought it was a great system also, but now we know better
the knuckles are quite easy to bend, subframe flexes easily, the steering tie rod is in contact with the coilspring during turning & articulation (watch the video you can see this), the skidplate doesnt do its job very well, ***** the factory skid plates do better than the superlift skid plate & the differential is left out in the open because the skidplate hugs the subframe & the differential tends to get caught up on things
the superlift fit lift is a well thought out & designed lift, BUT the overall quality of the product isnt comparable to other popular brands
I must disagree... The knuckles are thicker than OEM. The subframe is a Frame Integrated Technology (FIT) method and connects both crossmembers with a very robust skid plate (Flush mounted with counter sunk Hex bolts to prevent snags). My tie rods DO NOT RUB on the coil spring during turning or articulation. The differential is NOT exposed.

I must ask Sean... When you installed the SuperLift for your test and evaluation what model year truck was in on? I have always felt that seeing is believing and I am requesting photos of these "Failures" you speak of. I really want to see one of the bent knuckles you referenced, and the exposed differential.

F150deer... I have the Superlift 4.5" system with rear 1.5" add-a-leaf. This is a complete bolt-on system and I am running 35" tires with only minor trimming of the front valance to prevent tire rub. I take my truck in the Uwharrie Mountains camping and spend numerous weeks on a 26 mile island on the NC Outer Banks. I have logged over 8K miles with NO problems. I have NO squeaks, rattles or complaints with my suspension system. I speak from experience. I will say that I do not thrash my truck as in jumping cliffs, WOT through ditches, or paticipate in Monster truck events so I can not say how it will hold up in those conditions. I have attached a few pictures... BoB

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I realize everyone has their own opinions... But you know what they say about that also.

Sean... I know your DAD owns a shop. and you offer some good advice. I am just asking for some photo's. Several other members "said" good and BAD things about SuperLift. And I never saw any photos. Most referenced my "friends" truck or "this guy" just hear say if you know what I mean. most were refering to late eighties early ninties model vehicles... and those trucks were thrashed. Show me some recent vehicles with these issues.... Thanks, BoB
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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i dont know about superlifts kits for the newer f150's but i had one one my 04 ranger and i beat the hell out that lift kit off road and never had any problems, that being said i personally am going with the 8" Rize lift kit
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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06FX4... When are you getting the RIZE? My brother just purchased a used 04 F150(New Style) and he is having a tough time getting the RIZE 6". Everyone is telling him 4-6 month back order. I agree if I were to have wanted more suspension on my truck the 6-8" RIZE is the way. But being vertically challenged and never really doing any DEEP mudding or major off-roading I opted for the milder lift. I have not thrashed the SuperLift system but we have buried it to the frame on the beach(in the dunes) and I had to have a military style Duce-and-half truck pull us out(250.00 dollars). Several other trucks tried to help us but the truck would not budge. After all the tugging and jerking from that big truck nothing was bent. The highway ride remained smooth with NO shimmy... Any way If you know where the RIZE 6" is in stock or available let me know. I'll pass it on to my brother. He is currently on a back order list. BoB
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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I've heard Rize just completed a whole production run so the kits should be shipping out to distributors soon.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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06FX4... When are you getting the RIZE? My brother just purchased a used 04 F150(New Style) and he is having a tough time getting the RIZE 6". Everyone is telling him 4-6 month back order. I agree if I were to have wanted more suspension on my truck the 6-8" RIZE is the way. But being vertically challenged and never really doing any DEEP mudding or major off-roading I opted for the milder lift. I have not thrashed the SuperLift system but we have buried it to the frame on the beach(in the dunes) and I had to have a military style Duce-and-half truck pull us out(250.00 dollars). Several other trucks tried to help us but the truck would not budge. After all the tugging and jerking from that big truck nothing was bent. The highway ride remained smooth with NO shimmy... Any way If you know where the RIZE 6" is in stock or available let me know. I'll pass it on to my brother. He is currently on a back order list. BoB
ya like thump said they just finished a bunch so they should be out soon i ordered mine from there dealer here in maryland, i cant remeber the name but theres only one and there on rizes website.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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the knuckles ive seen were bent in offroading, & yes i do agree the knuckles are stronger than factory & ive seen many bent factory knuckles
the guys that offroad aroud here pertty much abuse their trucks like theres no tomorrow & we get alot of bent knuckles & such on other brands but it was more with the superlifts (might of been because everyone was buying that lift when it first came out?)
& look in your pictures, you can see the differential (& its protection) hanging lower than the rest of the skidplate & this tends to get hung up on stuff while offroading
we have a stock 05 supercrew right now that is in the process of being made a rental/loaner & i think im going to put the superlift fit system on it to see how it handles cause i would like to experience the lift first hand & not from what other people say & what theyve done to it.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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[QUOTE=sean_somer]the skidplate doesnt do its job very well, ***** the factory skid plates do better than the superlift skid plate & the differential is left out in the open because the skidplate hugs the subframe & the differential tends to get caught up on things

The diff. is not left out in the open. It is protected by a skid plate. Yes there is a part of the skid plate lower but thats due to the ARCH Superlift uses to provide more clearance. The skid plate follows the arched crossmember. This provides more clearance. As previously stated, I've had no problems with my Suspension... NO Bent knuckles, NO rubbing tie rod ends and never had any problem with my front differential gettting caught on anything, the diff. skid plate protects the diff. from hitting anything. But I do not have a shop like your dad...so I can only speak of my experiences. I look forward to seeing the 05 loaner/rental you are building. How about some pictures... you know the before and after? Thanks for the input be it negative or positive, I would just rather see it, then hear it. BoB

ThumperMx113 and 06FX4, thanks for the info. on the RIZE kits. I will let little brother know and may not have to wait as long as previously projected... BoB
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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ThumperMx113 and 06FX4, thanks for the info. on the RIZE kits. I will let little brother know and may not have to wait as long as previously projected... BoB
no problem anytime
 

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