lol pat, how is the rize kit revolutionary. I don't think the forum provides an anger management support group but ask RP to be certain.

 

Like I said Internet courage is hilarious

But I do appreciate you being a gentleman with your post and not bashing everybody. If J&F would have approached this the same way we all could have had an adult conversation and everybody involved more than likely would have learned something new from each other, that's what this forum is all about. But I'm sure when he gets back he'll just start slamming everybody again so until then

 

i dont literally mean revolutionary haha but i mean its done alot. whats his name...not cannon the other guy iwth his truck on rizes website was telling how the differentail...or mabye he said transfer case? slid on rollers and all this other stuff you wouldnt see on other kits. like how it has the best angles out of other truck, and its a 8 inch kit and some other things too.

it also has the first reverse spacer ive ever seen haha

 

WTF... the transfer case sliding on rollers

Try the rack and pinion

 

roushlimited THANKS i knew it couldnt be the transfer case....but just syaing it sounded right hahahaha

its been bothering......haha

 

omfg, pat you make me fogging laugh.

 

hot wire; my point exactly you cannot compare a suspension system designed for prerunning/racing with a kit you can purchase from Procomp,Fabtech RCD Rize ect.That would be like comparing J&F's truck to Robbie Gordens race truck. I am comparing our kit to 90% of the kits sold out there not the prerunner inspired suspension co's such as jdfabrication and H&M. These kits are designed to prerun race courses not drive to work and play on the weekends, and the price reflects that. From what I hear they are in excess of $10k. Quite a difference here don't you think. I have been trying to get a magazine to do a suspension shootout, so they can compare the top suspension co's in several catigories. Such as: How a kit looks: ease of installation and most importantly function. And by function I mean how well it offroads and how well it drives on the street. Lets be honest most trucks drive on the street more then in the dirt. Most magazines are declining because in a shootout there is a clear cut winner a a clear cut loser, and they don't want to **** anyone off and loose there advertising $$$. We are confident enough in our product to put it up against the competition and see what happens. We strive to build a kit that will drive great on the street and at the same time improve its offroad ability. We do not build pre runners or race trucks YET!!!!!!!!! I hope I clarified myself,and look forward to helping anyone with questions about Rize Industries.

 

Explain or show pics of your steering rack relocation system. The way I perceive the rack is it's even weaker as it looks like there are drop arms with awkward leverage connected to the tie rods and rack ends, and that is one downfall on these f150's. We have a really weak weld between two metals on the steering rack, mine has snapped in half (clean cut all the way around) as well as another member. I do wheel it pretty hard but that is no excuse, the Fabtech 6" I run is made well and I know because I installed it. Please provide pics if possible. If it is an improved method does it mount to anything rize specific (doubtful)? I ask because I might place it on my truck if sold separately. Nice looking kit but I'd like to see the actual kit in more depth than I currently have, especially the rack drop and the front diff mounts. I'd also like pics of the steering knuckles. I would like to see how FTS and other lifts of their size are dropping their steering racks, I doubt anyone has gone the length and actually extended the steering shaft & pinion.

 

i think u will be quite impressed josiah with the rack and pinion setup on this kit, its hard to take a good pic of it on the truck i was going to do that. maybe rize has a pic or two of a setup display. i can tell u u cant even tell there are 37's on my truck when u turn the wheel it is that smooth.

 

Josiah: It is very difficult to take photos of it on the truck but you can go on out website and view it on our instructions. Most lift kits raise the pick up point on the spindle to reduce the angle on the rack. The problem with this is you no longer are steering from the center of your hub and this increases the load on your stock rack hence the snapping of the stock part. At Rize we developed a drop down that mounts to the stock rack and is on bearings. This solves both problems, it keeps the angle to factory specs and fully isolates the stock rack to reduce load and prevent any undue stress on it. It drives so nice you wouldn't even know it was lifted turning 37 inch tires. I think if you view the photos in our instructions it will help you understand.Also it is featured in the latest Offroad that should hit newsstands anyday now.As far as selling these parts seperatly, that is not an option as it would not fit with your Fabtech lift. I hope this answers your question.

 

rize thanks for the explaining of this steering questions i have tried in the past but didnt exactly know how to explain it.

 

allrsdup: I hope that helped it is a difficult concept to explain. Thanks for all your support I am glad you are happy with your Rize kit.

 

no thank you!

 

Look Jeeps&Fords, not everyone wheels their truck like you do your POS jeep. I just installed my Rize lift and fitted it with a pair of 44". All the ladies give me thoubs up when I cruise by them. There is no way I would put this much money into a truck and then beat it up off road. That is not what it is for.

 

i dont wanna bash or flame you but how the hell did you put 44" tires on a rize kit

also, you just took part in his "point," not ours by saying "There is no way I would put this much money into a truck and then beat it up off road. That is not what it is for."

mabye not for you but thats what its for for us.