Been looking at the tuff country 5.5" blocks.. for the rear.. Not to familiar with blocks under the suspension lifts.. but Im going with a 10" suspension And wanting to get at least 16"s of lift outta the truck but im shooting for 18"s.. Is it possible to do the body lift too? with the blocks? or i would just have to go all blocks.. Pretty Much 10 Suspension and 5.5"s of rear axle lift.. But wont i need blocks in the front too? to even the truck out.. Not experienced with blocks on the axles.. anybody got any suggestions.. Shooting for 18"s of lift.... Help appreciated it.. Will do a axle conversion dana 60.. or 80.. depends.. So any suggestions..


"Shooting for 18 Inches of Lift"

10" Suspension
3" Body
5.5" Blocks all the way around?
1 other thing what i meen all the way around.. Wont i need to put the 5.5" blocks in the rear axle to.. to level out the truck so pretty much 4 of the 5.5" blocks all the way around?

18.5? Is it possible.. Help greatly appreciated.. Thanks..

Justin

 

You never mentioned what year truck you have. That might make some difference.

 

2001 F150 SuperCrew 4x4

totally got into the mix of something else, sry bout that

 

well still didnt make u answer my question? haha just kidding man..

So anyone got a good suggestion...


Reply it up!

 

Well, the only main thing I dont get is how you plan on putting a "block" on the front end? Blocks really only work on leaf springs (or am I wrong here?), the front end on your truck uses torsion bars...

For your other question, I dont see why you couldnt use the body lift along with all your other stuff, the body lift wont affect your suspension at all so the other mods wont know its there.

 

So basically I could use the

Suspension Lift...?
Body Lift...?
Lift Blocks...?

I can pretty much use all 3? yes I'm pretty sure the front does run off the torsion bars.. So If i decide to put 6" blocks.. in the rear.. i guess my i wouldnthave to worry about leveling the truck? or would i need blocks in the front.. since ill have 6 inches in the rear.. cause some other trucks i see.. they only have the blocks in the rear.. example i seen a truck the other day.. guy didnt know 2 much about his truck but he knew he was running 12"s of suspension and 5" blocks.. and yeah i guess the truck looked around 17"s of lift.. and i did see the blocks.. in the rear.. and the truck still looked even as could be.. so im kinda confused.. in different places.. know what i meen? Meening i guess i dont need to put blocks in the front? i guess the rear lift blocks dont affect the front size? it pretty much lifts the whole body of the truck? Basically the rear wont look 6"s higher than the front.. that would look pretty stupid.. But i guess its not like that? I guess the blocks somehow even the front out too? hmmm...

 

Anyone?

 

You'll need to get a 'kit' that's been engineered to work for both the front and rear. The most I recall seeing is around 10", but 4-6" is more common.... How they raise the front IFS is by raising the entire assembly in order to keep the CV joints at the same angle they are stock.

This is done by basically using plates bolted to the same mounting points as the suspension was and the suspension being bolted to the plates, thus lifting it up.

Putting blocks on the rear end is ok, but getting re arched springs is better IMO. Try standing on two chunks of 5" tall 4x4 posts and then take a step forward..... See what happens.... Your foot will push off of the post and you'll stumble forward and your feet will go backward... That's the same thing your axle will do when you take off from a stand still (also known as wheel hop or axle wrap). A 3 or 4 point traction bar setup will help in that case.... With the re arched springs, you won't need the traction bars.

For the lift you are talking about, you will really need to go with a solid front axle setup with leaf springs or a coil spring setup, but that'll be some serious $$ and probably all custom....

Good luck!

Mitch

 

I'll have to agree with MitchF150, being that you have a torsion bar front end "IFS" you can't put blocks in the front. You have to install drop crossmembers and other brackets to lower your suspension, thus creating the lift. Whatever you do don't crank up the torsion bars too much, as this will max out your suspension and make for a rough riding truck.

The front end conversion to a solid front axle is nice, but alot work, so take that into consideration if it's an everyday truck.

 

Makes alot of sense now.. Okay lets just say.. I go with the 10" Suspension 3" Body and 5.5" blocks.. Will i still have a problem the 5.5" i just plant to put on the rear.. no blocks all the way around.. or will this look pretty funny looking? i meen 5.5" is quite a bit.. in the rear.. will it look really awkward? what will i be best to go with 3" blocks in rear? i just maybe 2? not the 5.5"

thanks

Justin

 

A 10" lift 'kit' will (should) include whatever blocks or leaf springs that are required to make the front and the rear total that 10" of lift, so it will be level. That would probably include 5.5" blocks for the rear end if you keep the stock leaf springs.

You would not get a 10" 'kit' and then add your own 5.5" blocks to the 'kit'..... That would make it totally undriveable and look kinda silly too, IMO.....

If you add the 3" body lift to the 10" 'kit', that will give you a total of 13" of lift and that's all you are going to get out of it going the 'kit' route. For more then that, you'll have to go the solid axle route and all CUSTOM...

Besides IMO, anything more then a 6" suspension lift on an F150 just ruins a perfectically good daily driver truck.... If all you want it for is for show, then go for it, but it won't handle for cr@p and forget about doing any 'real' offroading with it.....

Yeah, you might be able to fit some 44" tall tires on it, but you will be turning them with some pretty puny axles and if you were to bog 'em down and apply full throttle, all you are going to do is break a lot of parts!

If you want a 'monster truck', then start with the right stuff to begin with.... That means an F250/F350. That'll get you the proper suspension/axles to start with and then you can go crazy on how high you want it to go....

That's just my opinion on the deal however..... You can make anything happen with any vehicle, you just need the $$ to make it so!

Good luck!

Mitch

 

Stacking blocks is a death wish. Running blocks under leaf springs on the front of a solid axle vehicle is a death wish. The taller the block, the worse problem you have with spring wrap.

To get the lift you are looking for, you will need to take a serious look at trashing the front IFS setup and going to a straight axle. Based on the questions that you are asking, this is way beyond your techincal abilities. Take it to a shop and talk to them about what you want to do.

 

I dont think your following my track now.. Lift blocks Are I repeat Are Spacers.. I have seen many trucks with Suspension Lift,Body Lift,Lift blocks.. meening spacers.. so i dont think were on the same track... because its very possible for all 3.. my question was how much could i run.. on spacers...

 

Another thing is shackle lift.. there pretty much spacers too..

 

When you get a lift kit, they already include lift blocks for the rear. When you get for example: a 6" Fabtech lift, it will lift the front of your truck six inches and the rear of your truck 4 inches with lift blocks. You cannot use any type of spacer or block on a torsion bar front end. To get 18 inches of lift, you will need a good shop do a custom kit that will replace the rear axle and add a solid axle in the front. Nearly every suspension lift kit uses blocks to raise the rear or the truck. If they kit doesnt include blocks, they usually include new leaf springs or add-a-leafs. THERE ARE NO LIFT SPACERS OR BLOCKS OF ANY KIND FOR INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION UTILIZING TORSION BARS!