Okay I found my paperwork and took a quick picture. It's hard to get it all in the picture and still be close enough to read the numbers... My numbers are a bit off on my MSRP and final selling price, but only by a couple of hundred bucks. The picture shows the window sticker price, it appears they took a discount off that price as you can see in the 'retail selling price box'. Then there is another $6,000 rebate which you can see in the pic that they added to the 'total down payment' box. So before TT&L I was at $26,750 or something like that instead of the $26,500 I originally said. My apologies as it had been a while since I saw the figures etc... I hope the paperwork is somewhat helpful although it can be difficult to see where or what type of discounts they took. I'm sure they coded it someway to Ford, but it doesn't show what types of factory rebates or dealer rebates they gave me. At the time they had a $5,000 or $6,000 factory rebate and the dealer was matching that. That is what I was haggling over with them, I wanted the full rebate plus my X-plan pricing etc...



-Brian

 

My '07 FX4 was about $42,650 MSRP with Luxury Package. Some dealers have more bargaining power than others. My dealer (on-line sales) quoted $36,800 OTD before rebates and trade-in.


If they're offering me 0% interest, no way I'd put money down! My worst mutual fund makes 12% interest, and at that rate, you double your money every 5 years! Granted, I wouldn't like a $700 car payment either. But in the end, you'd be $13,000 richer.

 

You got hosed.

 

It says 29,133 not 26,000? Then when you went to your credit union it went up to 34,000.

 

Tell me about your deal, then you can play.

 

I'm confused? Went up to $34,000? It's says 29,133 after TT&L and fees got added to the selling price. That's why I hesitated to scan uit, since it was so damn confussing the way they wrote it up. It looks like they gave me the $6,000 dealer rebate or somewhere around that figure before even putting the selling price at the top of that paper, then later on down the page they added the $6,000 manuf. rebate to the equation. Who knows, all I know is that I paid $26,500 to $26,750 before TT&L on my truck.

I'm not trying to rub my deal in your face or anything, I just can't believe some of the prices I keep seeing people pay on these trucks, considering the resale value...

-Brian

 

Looking at this again I think I see why it's so confusing, the order in which they list everything doesn't help. Take the $32,750 and subtract the additional $6,000 rebate and you get $26,750 then add the TT&L and fees back and you get the financing price.

It's really not that hard to believe considering the $12,000 off MSRP promotions they had going on plus my X-plan pin, hell I am looking in the paper today and I see the Ford dealers offering $10,000 off MSRP or 0% for 66months financing.

-Brian

 

Absolutely.

MSRP: $41300

Final deal: $32900, paid $2900 down, financed $30K.

Like I said, you got hosed.

Dealer still made $2290 on the truck.

I was able to negotiate because I was willing to walk. They needed to sell that truck to stay on stair step program.

 

I wouldn't either. While it is true that the higher the MSRP, the more room you have to negotiate, the fact is, F series trucks have a generous profit margin. I know, I have over a dozen patients that work at the local Ford plants. My total savings was $8400.

The problem with most buyers is they truly do not know how to negotiate a deal, especially on the most popular vehicle sold, which should be the easiet one to do.

The dealers rely on the hope that most buyers have their mind made up on a particular truck and realize they don't want to leave without it.

I've walked away from so many deals I can't remember all of them. There are 28 Ford dealers in my area. I think it is safe to say, the truck you want can be had on just about any given day.

But hey, if someone wants to pay a lot more for a truck than what the dealer is actually willing to take, go for it. If you're happy with your price, then that is all that matters. I can think of a lot more I'd like to do with that extra $8-9000 myself.

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Originally Posted by 04Lariat05kr
"Mine was 43,265 MSRP after X-plan it came out to 39,129 after tax it went up to 42,700."

There's no way I would have paid a dime over $35,000 out the door. And the dealer would have still made upwards of $3000 profit, just on the sale, not including any manufacturer incentive, or stair step fee paid to them by the manufacturer which can be anywhere from $400 to $1750. Most every dealer that sells any noticeable volume of F series trucks is on a stair step program, and they are willing to negotiate heavily to stay on it.