03 screw engine stumbles,bucks 40-60mph
03 screw engine stumbles,bucks 40-60mph
Anybody have any ideas as to why the engine is trying to come out of the truck from 40-60 MPH? Feels like it is shifting gears like 5-6 times in that range, when you get on it and let off and then roll back into her slowly its wicked jerky seems to clear up above and below this range. No check engine lights have ever come on. Help!!!!
I had a similar problem on my 01, and it turned out to be a bad COP. Try a search, and there have been a lot of people with the same problem, and after replacing the coils, it goes away. My truck would hesitate going about 45-55 with slight pressure on the accelator. I bought all 8 COPs new off ebay for under $150. Hope this helps.
It's plugs doing that.
Be awhere there is a possibility that new OEM plugs may be a different superseded spec now by Ford and may act the same way in a short time.
I have been through this already on the third set of different plugs and concluding a test to prove what the cause is.
If I am right, the new FORD designation is not good and you may need to select a plug for lower center resistance because the original OEM plugs are no longer available unless a dealer has some left on the shelf.
The cause of the missing is attributed to "lean miss" and is so random that no codes are set.
The miss rolling on and off the throttle is exactly what was happening for me.
One thing that happens during this action is the EGR operation is called and leans the fuel and advances the ignition timing. The plugs have a hard time trying to fire a lean mixture if they are erroded, gaps have widened, center resistance is to high etc.
This could cause all kinds of PCM reaction and results that you feel.
Let us know because it is a major item I am working on to prove it and present detailed info so the mistery can be solved and correct some previous misconceptions on what are good and bad plugs makes that now prevails and to show how to handle this problem of getting back to long plug life..
Be awhere there is a possibility that new OEM plugs may be a different superseded spec now by Ford and may act the same way in a short time.
I have been through this already on the third set of different plugs and concluding a test to prove what the cause is.
If I am right, the new FORD designation is not good and you may need to select a plug for lower center resistance because the original OEM plugs are no longer available unless a dealer has some left on the shelf.
The cause of the missing is attributed to "lean miss" and is so random that no codes are set.
The miss rolling on and off the throttle is exactly what was happening for me.
One thing that happens during this action is the EGR operation is called and leans the fuel and advances the ignition timing. The plugs have a hard time trying to fire a lean mixture if they are erroded, gaps have widened, center resistance is to high etc.
This could cause all kinds of PCM reaction and results that you feel.
Let us know because it is a major item I am working on to prove it and present detailed info so the mistery can be solved and correct some previous misconceptions on what are good and bad plugs makes that now prevails and to show how to handle this problem of getting back to long plug life..
Originally Posted by Bluegrass
It's plugs doing that.
Be awhere there is a possibility that new OEM plugs may be a different superseded spec now by Ford and may act the same way in a short time.
I have been through this already on the third set of different plugs and concluding a test to prove what the cause is.
If I am right, the new FORD designation is not good and you may need to select a plug for lower center resistance because the original OEM plugs are no longer available unless a dealer has some left on the shelf.
The cause of the missing is attributed to "lean miss" and is so random that no codes are set.
The miss rolling on and off the throttle is exactly what was happening for me.
One thing that happens during this action is the EGR operation is called and leans the fuel and advances the ignition timing. The plugs have a hard time trying to fire a lean mixture if they are erroded, gaps have widened, center resistance is to high etc.
This could cause all kinds of PCM reaction and results that you feel.
Let us know because it is a major item I am working on to prove it and present detailed info so the mistery can be solved and correct some previous misconceptions on what are good and bad plugs makes that now prevails and to show how to handle this problem of getting back to long plug life..
Be awhere there is a possibility that new OEM plugs may be a different superseded spec now by Ford and may act the same way in a short time.
I have been through this already on the third set of different plugs and concluding a test to prove what the cause is.
If I am right, the new FORD designation is not good and you may need to select a plug for lower center resistance because the original OEM plugs are no longer available unless a dealer has some left on the shelf.
The cause of the missing is attributed to "lean miss" and is so random that no codes are set.
The miss rolling on and off the throttle is exactly what was happening for me.
One thing that happens during this action is the EGR operation is called and leans the fuel and advances the ignition timing. The plugs have a hard time trying to fire a lean mixture if they are erroded, gaps have widened, center resistance is to high etc.
This could cause all kinds of PCM reaction and results that you feel.
Let us know because it is a major item I am working on to prove it and present detailed info so the mistery can be solved and correct some previous misconceptions on what are good and bad plugs makes that now prevails and to show how to handle this problem of getting back to long plug life..
It will be interesting to see how long your new plugs will go before the same condition returns.
This all seems to hinge on the center electrode resistance of the plugs.
Since we don't know what the resistance is on your old and new plugs it remains to be seen what happens. You may be lucky and get 40 k or more.
I went to my local parts store and had them bring out a list of plugs for this motor, I wanted to measure and record there resistances.
The BOSCH and the IRIDUMS showed the lower resistances so I selected the Bosch for the tests based on being $2.48 ea instead of the higher cost.
I have already been thru 2 sets of Motorcrafts at nearly $70 and discovered they measure higher than the originals I took out by as much as 100% and with the originals no longer available except found some at a dealer about 80 miles away. I may call and have them shipped if I see the problem again.
It looks like the Bosch plugs are getting a bad rap as being NG when the reasons for their failures are the possible use of the wrong designation,applications and center resistance. This should not render them N.G. or junk becasue in the sense of the word they were used in the wrong application.
I have them in now for test to see how long they go.
They are standard plats with single ground. #6241 gapped at .051.
Any one else try them, give us a report.
This all seems to hinge on the center electrode resistance of the plugs.
Since we don't know what the resistance is on your old and new plugs it remains to be seen what happens. You may be lucky and get 40 k or more.
I went to my local parts store and had them bring out a list of plugs for this motor, I wanted to measure and record there resistances.
The BOSCH and the IRIDUMS showed the lower resistances so I selected the Bosch for the tests based on being $2.48 ea instead of the higher cost.
I have already been thru 2 sets of Motorcrafts at nearly $70 and discovered they measure higher than the originals I took out by as much as 100% and with the originals no longer available except found some at a dealer about 80 miles away. I may call and have them shipped if I see the problem again.
It looks like the Bosch plugs are getting a bad rap as being NG when the reasons for their failures are the possible use of the wrong designation,applications and center resistance. This should not render them N.G. or junk becasue in the sense of the word they were used in the wrong application.
I have them in now for test to see how long they go.
They are standard plats with single ground. #6241 gapped at .051.
Any one else try them, give us a report.
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ditto for me.
Originally Posted by snsgraphics
I had the same issue, thought it was the COP, BUT it was only the plugs. I was scared because I had just bought it. Try the plugs first. and NO there was no misfire code kicked. I hope this helps
-M.C.
Last edited by march56; Oct 22, 2006 at 11:37 AM.


