Yea... right !!!

Got the ATI installed, the JBA headers, plugs, thermostat, and finally got the elect. fans running. Man I'm tired! Removing the old headers and installing the new was a DISASTER !!! But, I did learn a bunch of new positions! Then the ATI, had only a couple issues... First, the original plugs were rusted in place took a while to get them out. Also, the screws that hold the boots in place were really stuck in there too. Second, had to shim the entire mounting plate 1/8th inch, and the lower pully another 1/16th, Third, the belt didn't fit. Had to pick up a new longer one. Fourth, I really don't get the pully tensioner. I have it working, but not positive its right. None of the elbo's had holes in them so I was able to put the sensor where I wanted it. I also found a really good spot for the fuel pump, right where the old filter was located (4X4 expo) not sure if the trucks are the same.

My lower crank pulley seems to be off center and wobbles a bit. Should I try to play with it and get it smoother? It will be hit or miss. So thats it. One long weekend, sore hands, and I'm blown! The 500 mile countdown begins... The fuel upgrade parts are just akin to get in there!

Thanks to all of you for the helpful posts. I have a printed book of all the posts I thought would be helpful and I referred to every single one of them throughout the install. Great stuff.

 

I will be interested to see how your truck goes with the 4:10's. I have 3:55 LS and cant break em loose....which is prolly a good thing

 

Yeah, let us know how the 4.10's work out. Gas mileage and everything.

 

i have the 3.55s in with p275/45r20s I got a lil chirp on a launch the other day. but that was a pretty hard power breaking launch. i figure that is just perfect. right at the edge of traction. now. if i punch it in a turn it is a whole diffrent story. Its in the boost hard then. and my back end is GONE. and doesnt come back for quite a while. my personal favorite is backing up just on the edge od some grass. then let her rip and you will get quite a burnout. I dont think my back tirees are going to get very far with this ATI. and if i get 410s.. HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.

-steve

 

I dunno...... either I'm really hard to please, or something ain't right. Even with the new headers and the ATI, I barely notice a difference on the launch, and out to about 2500RPM, then it comes on strong. I did notice that the engine doesn't seem as labored at lower RPM's. I have not tried to mash it yet, I am patient w/ the 500 mile thing. I'm going to look over all the connections again this weekend. I still have to connect the boost guage. I can't wait to get my superchip back in, makes a world of difference. I won't really know about fuel milage until the chip is back in to correct for the gear ratio. Seems like when the AC is on it really runs like crap. Will any of the O2 sensors make it idle wierd?

Also, I know this thing is supposed to whine, but i think the tensioner pully makes more noise than the whine! It sounds like an AC pump with a bad clutch! Is this normal?

 

You mean that rattling? Kind of like a rock tumbler on high speed under the hood? I have that too but its not too bad, can really only notice it at idle.

 

Yeah, I have that noise too. I haven't really been able to break my rearend loose yet, but I haven't specifically tried (power breaking, etc), and I have 12.5" Mud-Terrains on my truck. The tires are nice and broke-in, soft too, so I grip pretty good. I am also going to wait for my chip, I have a feeling it is going to make a ton of difference.

-Matt

 

Seems to be getting stronger as I put some miles on it. I hit 100 miles already today and starting to get a feel for it. The rough idle seems to be only when it is cold / warm. Once I hit the highway for about 10 minutes and then idle at a light or something it is OK. It is still a real dog when pulling out from a stop sign or light unless I really get on it then it wakes up. It did that with the K&N FIPK too, so there may be something else wrong. I cleared the codes and adjusted the FMU and all has been well. No new codes.

Yea, that noise. I like the whine, but I think that is really annoying and makes it really sound cheap. Everyone says it sounds like it is going to fall apart. I may call ATI just to see if anything can be done with the bearing or something. For the money I think it is unacceptable. SKID ??? CRASH ???

With the AWD there is no chance of breaking it loose. But, I have the front drive shaft taken out right now and I definately think with the chip and the ATI broken in I will be able to at least break em loose. Probably not full blown smoke though, I'll let that for the Lightnings as I totally stick the road and pull out in front!!!

lol !!!

 

00 expo. i have about 700 miles on mine now. and after the oil change the rattling really starts to go away. it is still there, but much quieter. you can also tighten the belt to help it a bit. talk to crash about the belt tension. he explained to to me much better than the install manual. I thought that about the power at first too. It isnt too fast off the line untill you mash it. this is mainly because at idle the bypass valve is open and you are under vaccume. this is good because there is no extra strain on the engine and you still get good mileage on the highway. and you eill also notice that is seems to keep getting faster and faster. once you change the oil you will be much more satisfyed. then you really can see the power. also if you have the IAT sensor in the lower tube, relocating it to the upper tube really seemed to help. I reset the CPU when i did that, and the power seems to be much better now, especially off the line. i felt the same as you at first. but you will get a feel for the power and it starts to become more aparrent after you arent worrying about flooring it!!! Now, i just need to get my tranny in order and get the chip and fuel mods in!!!! i also need to relocate that damn pump i cant take it anymore. hopefully it will be quieter on the frame. if it isnt i may have to get an L pump. do any of you guys know if the pumps that PSP makes for the L will work in a reg truck. i think it is just a better L pump, but i want quite sure. anyway..... good luck getting through the 500 miles. the fun really begins at 501.

-steve

 

Thanks Steve. I don't mean to sound unsatisfied. I have a tendancy to have very high expectations. I have a hard time noticing a 20 HP gain with this huge thing. But I trust these guys ( everyone here) and am happy with all of the knowledge and assistance they offer. It has been WELL worth it. I know the chip will make a difference because it did before, and it will only be better now! I hear what your saying about the bypass and all. That all played in my decision to get the ATI. The noise (rattle) just kinda got to me. You will love the shift kit and chip!

Not sure where your fuel pump is located, but where I put mine, I don't notice it except when I turn on the ignition and once in a while at low RPM's. I will post a pic soon. I just replied to my other thread about the L fuel pump. I found um, but no way am I going to spend the $$$. I'll probably get the Walbro unless I hear too many horror stories. They do make the pumps for many companies who just slap their names on it.

chris

 

well the performance pumps from PSP are actually cheaper than the stock L pump from JDM. but i am not buying from JDM anymore. im sure you saw that thread. anyway. i will probably try to get the L pump from www.fordpartsonline.com. i am going to relocate my ATI pump first. I have it mounted on the cab brace and it resonates in the cab badly. i think if i move it to the frame it will be better. And dont feel bad about feeling like it wasnt difftent off the line. i felt that way at first too. but it really seems to pick up. if you start getting depresse go ride in a stock 5.4 and see how slow those things feel in the upper RPMs. thats what i did. You get used to things really fast. and start to forget how it used to feel. Another thing about the low end. It is all about the launch. i actually like the way the ATI doesnt pull super hard at first . because i am right at the edge of traction. and that is the best spot. i dont have to worry about wheelspin.

-steve

 

Crash, I don't mean to take you wrong, but your are not the forum police. I found the this post to be informative. I know now of the pump noise and the belt tensionor pulley noises and I will take these in to consideration when I install my ATI. These gentlemen have save myself a bit of a headache of doing it twice.
Keep the info pouring

Thanks to all
Bill

 

outdare,

I think you may have misunderstood Crash! After having as many conversations as I have had with him, he is not that type. He is right too, they are good points.

I installed my ATI, and as far as I am concerned, I don't even know the fuel pump is there. Probably how I mounted it with rubber spacers, but it is right underneath the drivers seat, and I have never heard/felt it. I also got used to the power already, but I am still waiting for my chip from JDM. Somewhere along the way I need to get a boost gauge and fuel pressure gauge too. Just not enough time.

-Matt

 

What can you say. I guess I took it wrong. I was not trying to flame Crash he has been superior in customer service. I was not intending to flame anyone just trying to keep it real.

Anyway on to other things I have decided to go with a local tuner and Diablo chip. JDM did not have my code. This guy will dyno tune the chip for my truck for about what a superchip costs. Maybe a little more. Hopefully everything will be install by the end of next week.

Bill

 

Just keep it real...

I'm trying to do the same. I read alot of great stuff here, but never really heard of the things I am reporting. I'm sure Crash and Skid have heard just about everything. But they can't possibly share everything they know with everyone on one thread. I just want everyone to have as much info as they can. I don't like to complain. I just like to get results. Weather I figure it out myself, or with the help of someone else.

I mounted my fuel pump in a 1/4" thick 3x3" chunk of rubber in the same location the stock fuel filter was mounted (on the frame). Used the same mounting hole, and threre was already a second hole right next to it. It was slick. My only worry is that I have never had any luck in the past with inline pumps and don't have much faith in them. Thats why I'm consideriung an in tank.