I think I know the answer but I would like for someone (who knows for sure)to confirm. I have a non/ic roush supercharger that I bought to put on my 08 f150. A local dealer has an 09 F250 HD, Screw, loaded with a 5.4 in it that I can get at a good price. Will the Roush fit on an 09? I don't think Roush will flash the PCM but if I can get it to Troyer I would rather go that route anyways. Mainly I want it for the transmission and the Screw since mine is an Kcab.

Rich

 

Nothing physically changed with the motor. The tuning is a whole different story being it has the 6 speed in it. However tow ratings go down with blowers (it stresses the transmissions, cooling systems and U joints a lot more) sort of defeating the purpose of a F250 work horse. Non Intercooled is also not a very good setup but some run them.

 

I seriously doubt a non inter-cooled roush setup will honestly destroy anything on a F-250. I would stick a water meth setup on it for when you tow though.

 

Thats fine I'm an ASE master certified tech too. I dont work for ford though I work for an independent shop. I have other random "certifications" that doesnt mean anything too. Not that any of that matters.

Ford, VMP, Troyer, and JDM all decrese the max tow ratings on supercharged trucks. Can you still tow with one, yes. Is towing easier with more power? Duh. Can you tow more then what the truck was originally rated for? NO!

Random Centri guy on the internet says otherwise. I'll take their word for it.

If they design a truck like the ecoboost where they know from the start f/I will be on it they can then set it up properly for the extra strain on the trans, exhaust valves, cooling system etc. Slapping a non intercooled blower on an N/A vehicle for towing is asking for problems. If he doesn't plan on towing 7000lbs up hills daily or just wants a daily driver it will probably be ok.

 

I used to tow with my centri like a boss back in the day. I always had a trailer and mustang on the back.

I was known for two things then, burn outs with a mustang on the back, and chirping 2nd gear while getting on the highway pulling a trailer.

 

I've towed a pontoon boat with my truck many times. I however never launched the boat as its huge and I dont think my truck would escape the water with no traction.

My point is adding a blower doesn't mean you cant tow, but to say you can tow more is utter crap. Put a trailer with the max tow ratings on twinscreweds truck and have him tow it and see what the Pyrometer says. Bet it gets to the point the valves will want to melt.

 

Well that's a no brainer.

A out of the box non intercooled roush on an f-250 though.... Ehhh I doubt 6lbs would hurt anything.

 

I miss flippy floppy chips also. I'm still rocking one on one of my foxes.

 

I just think its stupid when people throw out certifications or not in this case wallet size. It wasn't a jab at you either. Centri blowers is your thing not tuning. All the tuners I've had a tune from have told me the weight I can tow is less then factory. I would listen to their advice over anyone else's. I'm not trying to pick a fight as there is no reason to.

Fatherford is correct in that 5-6 psi may not hurt it. All depends on how he uses it. I was just trying to issue a warning.

 

While the blower can make towing a breeze and seemingly less stressful it is harder on everything. Towing capacity certainly does not increase. And yes any tuner who knows what he's doing will tell you not to tow max capacity. When I ran 8psi I was told restrict it to 5000lbs like the lightning and Harley trucks. At 10psi Mike advised me to limit it to 3000lbs. I didn't listen. And now at 12psi he doesn't advise towing at all. Still I do what I want. However I have never towed more then 5000lbs. Never needed to.

 

I will disagree with this comment. While VE does increase making the engine more powerful it does not increase ones towing capacity. To many other factors involved to make a blanket statement like that. Towing capcities are based on engine output, transmission capabilities, transmission cooling, gearing, braking capacity, even wheel size.

 

Agreed. Since running 12psi I have only towed 2 Harleys, some mountain bikes, my folks and 8 days worth of gear. So roughly 3000 more lbs then I normally have. Once we hit the foot hills and mountains the EGT's would shoot sky high as boost came in to help get over the hills. Now running 12psi boost comes in fairly early compared to a 6 psi set up. But it didn't take much for the EGT's to run up even at 65mph with the cruise set the ECM would switch over to open loop mode to cool things down. Worked fine but sucked for gas mileage. I was constantly easing off the gas to try to keep the temps down and out of open loop mode to improve mpg's.

 

Now that's with 12 psi with dual heat exchangers with a lower temp blower. 6 psi from a heaton no intercooler may even be worse on a long trip as it heat soaks. Or maybe not but I wouldn't risk it

 

I'm gonna have to moniter my egt's and see what I'm experiencing

 

Sorry twinscrewed for posting on squints thread, I didn't mean to upset you if I did.

LOL wut? You said a Shelby badge hertz Mustang GT was a shelby, yes it had the badge but its not $60000 as you so claimed it was. You had no idea what you were looking at or talking about. I was correcting you.

I dont attack you, infact the only post I can think of that directly would be considered is this.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...rash-here.html
I never said I was an expert. Nor have I claimed to be. What I do know from personal experience is that guys who go to school to learn to work on cars know acronyms very well, but dont know how to fix anything. Just personal experience you maybe a great mechanic. What I do know about you is that you know next to nothing on anything that is newer then 2004 or not procharged. Again you know vastly more then I could ever about prochargers. However time and time again I see you post inaccurate information on 3v trucks. Again I correct you when I can, you take this as an offense for whatever reason. Again I have certifications but none of them mean a damn thing. Just means you are book smart, not a good mechanic. You might impress customers at your shop who dont know about certifications but I doubt any mechanic would walk in there and think "Wow he sat in a class for 30 hours and got a certificate that says he knows whats in a book!" Thats exactly how most of those certificates were awarded. I this because I get them too

I dont have that luxury either, I dont get paid for stuff I dont fix.

I think you are a little delusional. I posted 2 replys to you, and you wrote a story book in reply

Cool story...?

You can talk to the people who have tuned my truck. I dont know who your "Mike" guy is, but I've never heard of him tuning 3v motors. I have however heard of these guys who I have a tune from each one of them

Mike Troyer - Troyerperformance
Jim Sr - JDM
Justin - VMP Tuning

Call them if you want more info on how smart or qualified they are.

Um this is Rich's thread, why are you apologizing to Jason? Do you even realize who you are talking to or about?