Yeah it will flash to mid 2000 I'm sure. Brake standing no. This pi will brake stand to around 2400 and flash 3000ish.

 

My simple questions would be something like:

1. Do you know how much of the pump you are utilizing? I think like 10-13% overhead is where most tuners like it.

2. Depending on your new numbers maybe you can just get a way with 42lb injectors since those typically handle up to 450rwhp DEPENDING on the vehicle setup.

3. How much do you make now? You said 10lbs so I'm assuming around 400rwhp...

I know everyone has their debating on boost-a-pumps and there's a lot of good info out there but when you do it you are just adding another center point of failure. I would do it right just like I've been doing on both my vehicles and have been happy so far, I had a BAP and thought it caused some issues so I switched to a return style system in my slowbra and it seemed to fix whatever was wrong with the previous fuel system. I've read a few articles on them and it seems like you are tricking the system and will fry the pump quicker this way. Just like steriods, sure you'll probably get jacked but you'll have testicular cancer in the long run...I think, ha.

 

hi MDK.. I plan on boosting to 12 psi till I upgrade the engine so I thought might as well go with 60lb injectors.. not sure how much of the pump I'm using; not sure on hp either as I haven't dyno my truck yet.. but by boost I should be around 400.. what issues where you seeing with the BAP on your setup?

 

I'm not a 100% positive but I think there might be issues using more than necessary sized injectors and 400rwhp is plenty for 42lbs but maybe you can do more research, I've assumed that the next step would be from 42lbs to 60lbs but I was making 450rwhp on 42lbs and it was fine.

Issues were with the fuel system all together. I bought it with a the stock returnless style but it had a SVT Focus pump in there with a BAP and during WOT it would hesitate during shifts. So many Cobra guys put their opinions in and my ex-tuner did a lot of work and we still couldn't figure it out. Turns out even with the BAP my fuel system was still maxed and the BAP just wasn't reliable when tuning the vehicle. A lot of tuners/mechanics call them band-aids and when you do research on them you'll see they get the job done but how long till you burn something out and was it installed and tuned correctly for the BAP? Got rid of the electronic fuel system and now I have a dual pumps with the same 42lb injectors and no more hesitation...not saying you should do this but the BAP was part of the problem either way.

First thing I would do is see how much pump you have left. I was surprised to found out my 08 F150 pump was bigger than previous yrs so even though I had planned on having Troyer install his new hat and dual pumps it wasn't necessary for my 380rwhp@8lbs we found out. Troyer even thinks if I run 10lbs I should make about 400rwhp and that my stock pump should be suitable along with the 39lb injectors. Only time will tell but my main point is that you should get as much info as you can so you can decide on what you need not just buy it for the hell of it...

 

Here is a helful link for figuring out what you need with regards to injectors. Scroll to the bottom and fill it out and press calculate. http://www.rceng.com/technical.aspx

And here is one for selecting a fuel pump. http://www.injectorrx.com/fpump.html

 

thanks guys for the info.. I'm leaning to upgrading the complete fuel system to avoid problems.. I know troyer has one and I think jdm also.. any suggestions?

 

Whichever is cheapest.

 

I talked to Mike Troyer and JDM this morning. I made sure and talked to them extensively to get the most info I could out of them on this subject.

JDM dual fuel pump setup uses both a factory ford truck unit and a factory ford gt-500 unit. They combine the two to make one. It uses two FPDM's. They sell for a $1000 Will support 500-550rwhp

Troyer uses his own custom modular billet hat that can support up to three pumps total and modular adapters that can be switched out for bigger lines etc. His standard unit comes with two pumps, the billet at, fittings to adapt to your factory lines, and your choice of a Zmax(sp?) controller or two factory FPDM's. Cost is $995

Troyer's standard unit will support 500-550rwhp. Upgrade the lines and support 650rwhp. Add a third pump and be around 1000rwhp capable.

Between those two Venders, The troyer dual pump setup is the best bang for the buck on the price. It still utilizes many OEM parts, and is upgradable to more then 99.9% of the 04 up f-150's will ever get to.

Now if you are willing to do some engineering yourself, you can pick up a GT-500 setup brand new for around $700 from mustang parts venders. If you can watch some mustang forums you can pick up a new but not installed unit for around $500, and even less if it's slightly used.

Or you can do the "band-aid" method, which I have been doing for over a year now, and run a boost-a-pump. Tuners hates it, but it works. $150 used off a mustang forum.

 

thanks FATHERFORD that was really helpfull.

 

Ahh so you are the reason I had to wait for him to call me back lol. I was on with him as well this morning. I will be headed up there for the fuel system upgrades, tuning, and more hopefully in two weeks.

 

Updating this a little more. Thank you to the little birdy...

A tripple pump billet modular hat very simular to Troyers is sold by Force Precision Works part #TP-62101 Apprently you can run 1, 2, or 3 ford GT pumps which flow 310lph. They look to sell around $440

Ford GT pumps part# 4g7v-9350-ca $100 a piece new give or take

Fore Precission Works also sells the adaptor to hook your factory fuel lines up to the hat. $35-$45

As far as hooking up an aditional FPDM..
http://www.westcoastmustangs.com/art...dual_fpdm.html





A little more work on someones part and they can have a kit VERY simular to troyers for around $700. Nearly $300 cheaper then troyer sells it.

 

Fartherford are you going this route? I found Fore's website, but I only see fuel hat listed for the Lightning, but there is no part number. Would that be the one to use?

 

Pretty sure you are going to have to call them and get it. You have a PM.