Hey fellas,

I have a little quandry. I have the Roush non-intercooled s/c. I can get the intercooler upgrade from my local Roush dealer installed for $3,100. That's alot. If I could sell my Roush for $3,500, I'd likely switch to the Whipple. Is there much of a market for the 04 up used superchargers? What do you think about Roush Intercooled vs Whipple? Thanks

 

Man, what a bummer. I think what Roush did in regards to the IC kit is just wrong.

Have you looked into a custom built IC kit? Maybe someone out there can make one for a reasonable amount that would work as well, or better than the Roush IC kit and for a reasonable price.

As for IC Roush vs Whipple, it's very close...almost too close to call.

 

As to the market for a blower? Never know until you try. I bet you will have no problem selling it. I sold 2 blowers off my 02 within two weeks back when there was less of a demand.

 

Yep that $3,100 is the main reason I opted to get the Intercooler installed in the begining. I have read the whipple is more powerful but not by a huge amount. Personally I would just look for an aftermarket intercooler setup. I am very happy with the roush

 

I would have bought the intercooler "in the beginning" if it was out. As for aftermarket intercoolers--I'd be open to suggestions, but I'm not aware of anything that would work. I even talked to some shops that designed competitive eaton blowers to see if they could do an intercooler--not.

 

I don't agree in the least with that statement. The only benefit the intercooled Roush will give you over the whipple is the "warranty" that Roush gives you when Ford revokes yours. As for price and power, whipple is hands down a better supercharger. The Roush non-IC was going to cost me more than the Whipple when I had mine installed earlier this year. I finally came to the conclusion to say screw it to the warranty, if I'm going to do this, I want the best that's out there.

If you are about to dump $3100 and can get $3000 for your roush non-ic on ebay or through somebody else, I would take that $6100 and invest it into the Whipple. You will be so much happier. The folks at Whipple have removed Roush superchargers and installed their set up on a few F-150's and the owners are more than happy and noticed a considerable improvement.

You are looking at wanting more power now than what you have, and the same thing will happen after you do this upgrade. Whipple will be offering a 10psi upgrade kit sometime in the future which is what they worked on developing with my truck, so something is already in the works to get you into that 400 RWHP range. You'll be hard pressed to even get close to that with upgrades on the Roush.

 

05 Roush LT, what boost does the Whipple run in teh basic kit? How did you get them to upgrade you to 10lbs of boost, and do they have teh parts available for that yet?

 

what about drivetrain durability when approaching the 400 RWHP range? will it handle that much power?

 

Tuners I have spoken with say you may run into problems at 400 to 450 rwhp eventually. The fix is a rebuild like a monster box, which is good to 1000hp

 

Hey...Way to bash the Roush SC I just had installed... You are right I have heard the whipple is much more bang for your buck in terms of noticiable power. The Roush kit is just alot more intergrated I mean does not even drive like it has a supercharger until you want to.

Both are nice kits. Good luck with whichever choice you decide.

 

I've been told that 450RWHP is about all you want to play around with on the stock drivetrain and tranny. I'm about to do the 4.56 gear swap, so I'm really playing with fire. I was at 427RWHP in 99 degree heat, so back home where it is usually 50-75 degrees, I'm making close to the 450 range. I towed a 7000 pound trailer more than 3300 miles in 2 and a half days, and have worked the truck pretty good around town and I have yet to have a problem.

The Whipple kit runs 8 pounds of boost stock, and my set up now is pushing out between 9.5-10 pounds of boost with the upgrade. I'm not sure when Whipple will release the upgrade kit, but I'm fairly certain it will happen.

The Roush is a good kit, I just think the Whipple is a far superior blower. Before I did the upgrade it was like Inurok mentioned, you wouldn't even know it was there if you didn't get on it. After the smaller pully though, the whine and power comes a lot faster.

You might also consider one of the other kits like magna charger because the keep offering such good prices to get more out there.

 

I haven't seen confirmation, but if the 3V 5.4 uses the same rods as the 2V, then 450rwhp is pushing it on the stock bottom end too.

 

mlawdawg, my opinion would be to bite the bullet and do the upgrade for a few reasons. One, I am sure if you shop around you can find the kit for somewhat less than retail. Call multiple Roush parts dealers and shop around. Two, keep in mind that the upgrade comes with a lot of parts not just the intake; injectors, intercooler pump, intercooler radiator, more hoses etc. Third, if you try and sell your current kit I would speculate that most people would know there is a intercooled version available and would not be interested in the non-intercooled setup. Like I said that was my opinion. If you do go with the upgrade, you will love it. I have the intercooled kit on my truck and have been all smiles. Good luck.

 

Thanks. I am leaning that way. A blast in Michigan's cool air this a.m. drove home the difference the intercooler can make. And with only 7.5 lbs of boost for the Roush intercooled kit, running 10lbs with different pullies would be pretty awesome.