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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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Are you installing the Whipple 2.3L or 3.3L? I saw the 3.3 while I was in Fresno, the thing is freekin' huge. I also remembered that they didn't have anything out for the 2V 5.4, I take it this is a custom install?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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The short blocks are identical between the 2V and 4V engines except for the C/R of the pistons. The heads just bolt on and you use the Navi front cover.

The difficult parts was the intake manifold to put the Eaton (or Whipple) on top.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Ive got... a 2000 f150 5.4 what whipple charger can i get that wont damage my engine? or even eaton im trying to avoid the centrifugal chargers. i like the whine u get out of a twin screw. i wana show those chevys whats up on the freeway
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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Sounds like you might be a candidate for a Lightning conversion.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Mad, do you know if you will have problems getting your truck smoged?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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No problems so far with the 4V heads, since they are all OE equipment and all smog equipment is properly installed and functional. The Whipple has a CARB approval tag with it.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Any news about the Whipple install Mike ?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Yes but none good yet.

Due to Whipples new mounting system that makes it easier on a 2V, it requires that I make a complete new top for my manifold.

I programmed it over the weekend and hopefully I can get my chunk of aluminum into my buddy's machine next Wednesday.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by madferraristi
Yes but none good yet.

Due to Whipples new mounting system that makes it easier on a 2V, it requires that I make a complete new top for my manifold.

I programmed it over the weekend and hopefully I can get my chunk of aluminum into my buddy's machine next Wednesday.
Nothing yet Mike ?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Some progress.

First let me tell you it's mighty difficult for a "righty" to work with his right hand in a splint. (severed tendon, right index finger).

Thanks to a good friend, Dave Dyson of Custom Performance Products http://www.customperf.com/ (yes, free plug) I now have the new top for my manifold. Now I can get on with the install in earnest, except for taking care of customers of course.

I still see some minor tweaks that must be made such as interference between the IAC and the left hand valve cover plus I have to make a custom piece for the snout support bracket.

Then I need to drop my tank and eliminate the last 12" section of the OE fuel line and replace it with something equal to a -8 AN size I have from the tank to the fuel rails.

Finally, before I put her back on the road, I need to replace my Bassani mufflers. They are super free flowing but too loud for my taste. I am going back to 54" long, 3" ID, all stainless steel packs.

Hope to have it all done by the end of next week but with my hand, things go very slowly indeed.
 

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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yes I wouldnt mind knowing a few things too...

Right now I have around 220 RW horses, but i want more..

I really dont know what supercharger to get, if i can get the money, haha.

it will be hard considering im a new driver and still in high school, but it will be worth it.

Do you mind if i ask how much the cams, and eaton cost?

I really do thank everyone for any advice they would be willing to give!

thank you
Chase
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:22 AM
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I made what looks like a small amount of progress this week but was in reality a major step forward.



Getting the Whipple to physically fit on the engine, under the cowl, was no small feat because the heads are so tall. My new manifold top had to be thinned down substantially, requiring the installation of twelve helicoils otherwise I was afraid the 10mm bolts that secure the Whipple midplate would never take full torque.

Now all I have to do is figure out how I am going to mount the IAC and EGR valves since both run into the damn valve covers, then machine some tricky little pieces that will retain the fuel rails since they went away with the Eaton midplate. Then I have to re-make the Whipple snout support bracket because it too won't fit.

Hope this is turns out to be worth all the trouble.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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I know Mike your having problems with this build but you have one of the coolest builds out there...who would take the time to do a 32v Whipple build from scratch? Keep up the work...You will be happy with the results Im sure
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Made some decent progress this weekend.

Blower is on. IAC is modified and installed. EGR has to be mounted upside down so I will have to fab up a custom tube.

My next step will be to decide where I am going to mount the controls. The Kit comes with two separate brackets for remote mounting however, my Power Steering reservoir occupies the space on the brake booster required for one of them.

I may decide to mount the OE bracket with all controls on the passenger side and re-route the wires. This shouldn't be too bad since I have already customized the wiring harness twice and none of the wires will need to be lengthened so it should only require opening the harness and separating out the appropriate wires. Unfortunately, prior experience tells me that I will probably have to cut and splice a few since I think the peep that builds these harnesses in Mexico "braids" the wires as he/she is building them as they are very badly tangled.

Once the wiring is done, I will build a vacuum line harness similar to the OE setup using the OE and some other lines I have in one of my boxes of parts.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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All done with the Eaton. The Whipple is alive.

I finally got it all back together and I am quite pleased.

I must say that the Whipple kit for the Lightning is very complete and well thought out. There are neat little brackets for relocating the emissions controls and the boost bypass and dump all the way down to preassembled vacuum hoses with all of the appropriate connectors. There is nothing lacking for installing this blower on a normal SC truck.

However, the 4V heads really throw some curve ***** that required considerable time to make it come together the way I wanted it to. In addition to having to relocate the IAC and the EGR valves, I had to open up my entire engine wiring harness to gain access to the various wires so as to have the connectors in the appropriate locations. Then since I refuse to have rubber vacuum hoses runing hither and yon, I dug into my cache of parts and dug out enough OE vacuum tubing in the correct colors and bent and assembled a complete vacuum harness to duplicate the original that was on my engine, (yeah, **** I know). The end result has a neat apperance, I will try to post a pic or two tomorrow.

I wont be able to get to the dyno until at least next week but the initial driving impressions tell me that it will make a little more power. Boost comes up sooner and at 4000 it is at 15 psi, I'll let it all hang out tomorrow. What I like the best is that it is quieter than the Eaton. It doesn't have the high pitched whine but rather a deep growl that is almost silent until it gets to about 3500 at heavy throttle. I like stealth.
 
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