Lightning supercharger swap on N/A 5.4

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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Was told (probably from brahmus) that top radiator is OK, new would be nice, but rear is very tight bend to make way for blower.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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I haven't done the swap yet. I'm still waiting on the SC to come back from being ported by Apten.
The assembly I purchased is off a 2001 Lightning which is the same year as my truck.
What I have on now is the Allen kit that I installed over a weekend. That one took 1 day for the manifold/blower, 1 day for the heat exchanger, pump, and wiring, and 1 day for the fuel pump. In the first manifold install, I ripped the manifold gasket and had to reinstall. The reinstall took only 4 hrs (knew what I was doing at that point. I've pulled that fuel pump 4 times now, so that's down to about 2hrs total. I've even changed the heat exchanger, so that time is down to about 1hr. Sucks to gain experience this way..:-)

Back to your question though,,,,
According to Mike Dunn (master of this swap), the harness is identical except for the second IAT sensor wires.
He suggested to snip and splice the air intake IAT sensor and replace it with the manifold IAT sensor (after blower).

I'm hoping to provide a positive report to you all sometime next week. I wasn't planning to take pictures, but enough questions have been asked that I might just put together a little album of this next swap. No audio though. Might be some cussing going on.

Questions are welcome.

-adam
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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The heater hoses posed no issue for me at all. They come out of the firewall and turn in full circle, about 4" radius, could be a little bit neater but then I have never looked at a Lightning to see if they are any tidier. They arn't really visible unless you look for them since they are up tight up against the cowl overhang.

As for the upper radiator hose, this one has always been a mystery to me. My original fit around the IC reservoir ok, a little snug but acceptable, I have since changed it for the correct part for other reasons. However, for some the hose is definitely too short where it connects to the radiator. Almost as if there were two different parts supplied when only one number is in the Ford parts system.

Another two hoses you may want to get are the IC hoses that run from the tube along side the blower to the reservoir and the one that runs from the bottom of the reservoir to the pump. Heater hose can be used but the molded OE hoses fit and look much better. For the other two hoses, heater hose works just fine IMO.

By the way, I have all of this stuff on the shelf.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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I purchased all 4 IC hoses new from Ford sans discount because I thought there just heater hoses. Wrong! What a rip off. Yes they are molded shapes and nice quality but at what cost.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Ouch, I'll bet the four cost you almost 75 bucks.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Some of them were about $30 a piece as ai remember. I didn't even ask, just ordered and got sticker shock! if you are coming out to Maryland anytime in the next 6 months you can help install supercharger. Also, still trying to finish Cobra Replica. Have to wire dash and engine and then should be able to drive.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Ok Mad,
I'll take the upper IC hose that connects to the IC to the IC tank.
Along with the engine belt,,and air filter.:-)
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Air filter meaning K&N replacement filter or equivalent I hope. If you do not have airbox, these are available (sometimes) on either NHTOC or NLOC.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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I currently have a Volant sealed cold air kit. The air box is the same as Volant's Lightning version. The 90mm MAF is bolted onto it as well. Now, I need to see if the Ford OEM MAF to TB boot will fit between the two.

I have the Ford air box as well just in case, but may be able to stick with my Volant unit. I have no idea whether it will help, but it really looks nice inside the engine!

Still need the IC hose since I've seen Mad's setup and it looks really clean.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Which one? Let me know, I'll send it with your other stuff tomorrow.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Progress report on my swap:
Removed existing stuff including the existing wiring harness. That was a real pain!
The 2001 SVT Lighthing wiring harness is not as "plug-n-play" as I was hoping. I've run into a few things so far. Minor, but take additional time.
O2 sensors are keyed differently. -Remove the nubs and make it work!
Driver side sensor on engine block has different plug. -solder on the one from your old harness.
Driver side sensor wire down to the sensor near the oil filter is too short. -solder on the one from your old harness.
Need the special bolts that hold on the SC tensioner assembly to the block.
Alternator stock wiring plug has extra plug that doesn't have a home on the Lightning alternator. -Don't use it!

I have the new manifold, and wiring harness in now. I'm missing the manifold bolts for some reason (threw them out from the last SC install??). Will get these tomorrow hopefully.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:34 AM
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i am doing the same swap a hd supercharger from a 2002 hd to my 2000 f 150, any specific advice for my truck, wiring harness and such. and how much boost is safe on the stock 5.4, i believe the lightning motor is stronger on the bottom and less compression right.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Get in touch with Mike Dunn from madenterprise.com. speak with him on the phone, he can answer any question you might dream up and get you everything you would need for the swap. and yes the lightning motor is better geared for boost. My personal opinion would be to run no bigger than a 4lbs lower pulley. the hd blower makes 6lbs from the factory +4 will put you at 10 an that might be a bit much?? The list can go on and on, apten port headers, intake exhaust, all affects boost.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Concur with boost recommendation. This will give you about the same boost as the Lightning with a better belt combo ie. larger top pulley to eliminate any belt slippage. I have still yet to install my HD supercharge on F150.

Brahmus - do you have the P/N for the supercharger idler assemby support? Does one of the bolts go into a hole on the front pass front cover that has a wire support in it?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I have the Lightning assembly and a 4psi lower pulley with my apten ported eaton and consistently see 12psi on the guage.
I had Sal send me a custom tune and I haven't had any pinging so far. I was considering the 6psi pulley, but may go with long tube headers before any more boost upgrades.

Anybody running more than 12psi on their stock N/A 5.4L engine?
Tell me how it is going.

-adam
 
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