which one? i already have a flip so taking out the over load spring will do nothing, should i take out the shortest one? or the longest(obviously not the very longest one) spring rate is not a problem so dont tell me it will be too soft, just looking for another inch or less of drop (already 5.5" with a flip and stock hangers and shackles and coil overs to bring it up the .5" and stiffen it up)

 

You can take out either with the adjust ability you have in your suspension. Typically the shorter leaf is stiffer than the longer ones. You should see more than an inch drop. Spring rate will play more with exactly how low it does go. With the coil overs you can adjust to what height you want in the rear. Basically it comes down to more of which one you want to take out because like you said you can adjust it.

 

I thought once you flipped it, taking a leaf out will not do anything? Maybe i am wrong though

 

If you remove a spring no matter where the mounting location of the axle is it will lower the vehicle. It has less spring rate so the body comes down farther. Basically with his set up he would be using springs more to locate the axle front to back and some of its spring rate and then using coil over to compensate for the rest of the spring rate to his liking.

 

So how will removing the O/L leaf do nothing? That makes no sense.

 

The way the overload is suppose to work is when the weight limit has been exceeded on the active springs. If you look on a factory spring set the overload should not be touching on the ends under normal conditions it is almost perfectly flat where the other springs are arched. But if the vehicle load exceeds the active springs it will be in contact with them as they flatten out. So under normal driving you could remove the overload and see no difference except the truck setting about the height of it lower. I hope this helps.

Now this is the normal 1/2 ton set up. 3/4 and 1 tons have a different set up but similar idea.

 

Still though taking out the O/L spring would net you 1/2" of drop, the thickness of the leaf, so saying taking the O/L out does nothing makes no sense.

 

you both are right, just_dave worded a litlle funny. he means the truck will sit as low as the o/l spring is thick.

if that helps.

 

no I dont think it will do anything since its already been flipped. but im not sure ive got about 3 hotwheels in front of me trying to figure it out

 

I understand the confusion but maybe I can explain better with this pic. Ok on a normal f150 your axle would be located where the black dot is. In this position removing the overload would drop the truck the amount of the over load. Now if you have the axle over the spring which would be located where the red dot is then removing the overload would do nothing unless the truck was at max weight for the active springs that would then ride on the overload. I hope this helps.

 

^that cleared it up for me

good explanation

 

Thanks I try to help when I can.

 

exactly...

without a flip and under normal driving(not towing) the over load spring is like a lifting block if you take it out it will drop that much and not effect the spring rate(untill you put in a lot of weight) but if the spring is under the axle it would not lower it any...

 

OK, I gotcha now guys. The wheels are greased. :o

Why not make a block?

 

i dunno,thought about it but i dont really want a block, i get too much axle wrap as is...