Id do separate amps for subs and speakers, that way you can get optimum power amounts.

 

So I can say I have missed a lot in the last few hours. But that amp will not give enough power for what you are trying to do.

Since you are looking into internet sellers (WHICH I AM FULLY AGAINST) check this out http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ystem+360.html its got everything you are looking to do. A 3-way setup with 8", 3" and a 1.1" tweeter. And its Dynaudio.

Its a bit more than I think you want to spend but itd be WORTH IT!

 

I was looking at the alpine 9887 and the 9886, i have been set on the 9886 for a long time and just last week got the pioneer DEH-P7000BT because i fell in love with it after I installed one for the first time... Its a little bit different than the other new pioneers...which i don't like. But i was going for the 9886 over the 9887 because i was big on the imprint technology and with the 9886, it was cheaper to get the imprint. Whats the difference between the two units? I need some clarity for a fellow installer of mine because i cannot find any more info.

Also fish, I would take advice from these guys, I have been going through all of these forums for a few months now taking little bits from them and i have learned a lot on top of what i already knew... Low reminds me of an installer i used to work with who knew everything about everything.... I bet you could call him and get factory wire colors for an alarm on some cars. Same with Styx and Bartark, they always have an answer.

 

Normally, I would too, but these class D, RF amps are very conservatively rated, and get some of the best reviews..... plus, this one would actually get pretty close to the optimum power amounts... with the right speakers of course.

If I were to go with a slightly more powerful, seperate sub amp, and a slightly more powerful 4ch amp as well, I'd be looking at $700 to $800, instead of this one amp for $500. I guess the question is, would a "little" more power, be worth $200 or $300 more dollars, and one extra piece of hardware ?

....in fact, I just checked it out; To go from 600wt x 1 ch, into 2ohms {for the sub channel on the amp I showed} to 750wt x 1 ch {a relatively small difference... probably about 1db of sound output} I'd have to pay $460 for the sub amp by itself, and then to go from 50wt x 4 ch, into 4ohms {from the 5 channel amp I showed} to 60wt x 4 ch into 4ohm's, I'd have to spend another $270.... so, $230 more, for 150wt more on the sub channel, and 10wts each on the other 4 ch's.....

Hmmmm,
Decisions :-)
Fish

PS, this is all comparing Rockford to Rockford. I'd still consider another brand of amp(s) if I could find one that was a better value, and got equal or better reviews than Rockfords.

 

Whats sad is I can give you that.... F150, Chrysler 300's and Charger, many Chevy's etc...

 

Let's backtrack for a minute.

I think we might be starting to get onto a different page here. I do want "what I'd call" a very nice sounding system.... But not like a reference, or show quality system.... and although I know that 8" woofers can sound really nice, they won't EVER put out enough earth quaking bass to make me happy.... unless maybe if I had like 20 of them {I saw a system like that once ! Incredibly loud ! But not flat whatsoever... not that they couldn't be... those just were not}

So, unless you meant, that Dynaudio system, using the 8"s as mid-bass drivers + a couple of real 12" or 15" subwoofers.....

I guess what I want Low_e, is a system with the kind of bass that you can hear from blocks away {the kind that kids love} AND, enough clean mids and highs to (almost) keep up.

So, not that amp I showed ? Which one(s) ???

Fish

PS, How about a few of these ?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...+T40001bd.html

I wish ! :-)

 

Hmmmm......By the way you talk, I think if I were you I would just be looking for a nice 2 way component system that can handle a boatload of power, a big 2 channel to run them, big mono, and whatever subs you like that will get loud and still be accurate.

For what it seems like you are wanting, I think you are putting way more into this than you need......

 

Maybe I am getting lost here, but I was thinking you wanted a serious SQ system.

If you are then that Dynaudio system with a 15 to kick the low end.

If not then like Bartak said this thread is overkill.

 

yea, get that rockford amp and 2 Orion HCCA 15's
let me know if you can hear after two days
hell, two seconds. haha

 

the REASON i said the jensen is because his limit is $2k. and he wants a "nice" radio... i'm running a pioneer right now so i DON'T have any personal experience with the headunit but a few members on here have it and like it.

i prefer old school rockford over the new stuff.. i had a punch 250a2 pushing the 4 10"s first back in high school...KILLEr starter system lol

 

This is the only time anyone will see me say this: Rockford is not the "chit". In fact, I think its tanking fast. I am abt to be on my 3rd 3Sixty.2 because the BT chip SUCKS and cant take heat.

JUNKSEN BLOWS!!!

 

man you make more money then i do... and rockfords newer crap is just that...crap.

and yea, i've tried jensen brand other items like speakers and they do suck. and that was about 6 months ago i read the reviews...

sigh i'll just shut up and go back to worshipping the lords of rock....

 

the dynaudio 3 way paired with 2 15s or hell even 2 18s would be a KILLER setup. your gonna need way more than 2 12's and 600 watts to get that blocks away boom you want

 

all I can say is, I "wish" everyone here could have heard all of the great sound I use to get out of two little light weight 10"s. They were called Series One's... only rated at 100wt's each... but I gave them 150wts anyway, and put them in a ported box (built to factory specs). So then I had kids coming up and asking, "What do you have ? four 12"s ? .... couple of 15"s ? .....
> Two 10"s ! No way ! Those must be like pro series, huh ? How many wt's ?!?! Pretty funny really.

Anyway, I had lots of nice mids and highs wrapped all the way around me too. And another amazing thing about that system, is that it worked flawlessly for 8 years ! Yes, 8 years without blowing anything !

Honestly, if I could create another system that only sounded "as good" as that one did, it would be pretty darn cool. Then again, that system always blew away much higher dollar systems, than it should have been able to.

Lest anyone say, "Well you must think you know what your doing... why are you asking us" ?.....
Answer ? I played with a whole bunch of different systems in my old Chevy S-10 that "all flat out sucked"..... Then one day {somewhat out of previous experiences, but a good chunk of luck involved too} I finally hit the nail on the head.
BTW, I tried a couple of times after that, to "improve" that setup.... but everything I tried, just brought it back down a notch, or two, and so I'd go right back to how it was, previous.
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So hey now, not Rockford Amps ? What then ? Who makes the most "clean, continuous power, for the $" ??? Have I heard of them ? Name brand, or not ?

Hey Styx, you said > your gonna need way more than 2 12's and 600 watts to get that blocks away boom you want < So one would think.... but in my personal experiences, only a couple "small subs" > set up correctly < will do SOOO much more, than 6 15"s and 2000wts > set up wrong. I used to see that all the time.

Peace,
Fish

 

I have 4 8's sealed with 1800 watts and while it gets sorta loud (130ish dB) in the car it just doesn't have the cone area or air movement 2 18's would provide with the same power... itll get loud inside the truck but I cannot be heard a block away.. I had the same power on 2 10s (less cone area) but ported and I was 10 dB louder in a hatchback. that was cranking about 140 @ 40Hz which is where you start getting that blocks away window shaking bass. I don't think you've had much experience with todays car audio, the stuff 10 or 20 years ago is nothing like what kids are putting in cars today. you should really start sitting in cars and seeing if "block away bass" is really what your looking for. cause even tho 2 10's and 300 watts might have been loud for the time its not what I would consider bass that can be felt for blocks... now 2 18s with 2000watts on the otherhand might be overkill for what you want but it would be felt for blocks..