hey whats up bro? rememeber had talked about making me a box? are you still intrested? or do you have time?

im thinking of returning the eclipse amp and get a
kicker KX650.4 & KX1000.7 w/ 2 10 or 8 L7's
w/mb quarts or those top end pioneers that 1badvmax had talked about. i saw them at a local shop and they looked super high quality

p.s clear you pm box

 

Do the mb's as long as they are from before the buyout. And Im not a fan of the Pioneer highs.

 

Low e

I was never really a fan of Pioneer components either , until I paid attention and listened to a few of there flagship models . Say what you want but 2 of these first place SQ trophies were over cars with $1000.00 Quart components . And one of them was over a Tiburon with a $30,000 system .

 

Nice install After searching the net I was abel to find a few reviews and this was the best http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ead.php?t=7302
Seems they are awesome for the $$$$ I bit the bullet and ordered two sets for just under $500 shipped..
Im only hopeing I dont have any issues installing due to there size..

 

Quite few ...

Type of vehicle, genre of preferred music,amplification All preferences.

And their eyes. Lets go into a "well it did good at finals" debate. If you've followed the scene long enough then you would surely know by now politics play a HUGE role. Make competitions double blinded then we can rely on them for accuracy.

I know he knows how to get money into the magazines pockets. Larger advertisers hardly ever (IF Ever) see much in the way of negative reviews. Revenue would quickly diminish if they did.


But when compared SRP to SRP they Premiers dont seem AS good of a deal now do they? What a product can 'be had for' shouldnt really play a role in it's selection. The PRSs have quite nice midbass, but IMOP thats where it leaves off. The tweets lack upper end extension and 'airyness' . To me they just didnt have that 'sparkle' when really gotten on.

 

Im glad that you enjoy them and do well with them. But lets not let a price tag of another vehicle speak in terms of its sound quality. That is just plain ignorant. Ive put together many setups that were on 'a budget' that would easily knock the doors off of quite few with Alot more invested. Cost of product and install really has no business in comparison on how something sounds.

 

Ignorant?????? Why is it that there is alway's someone in the crowd that doesn't get a post ? My point was that you don't have to spend $500, $750 or a $1000 dollars on a component set to have a very good sounding car audio system . Pretty much the same thing you said in your post . Knowing how to set up a SQ vehicle is much more important than how much is spent on the components .

 

But you need the correct components and install to have that SQ come through. IMHO the Pioneers regardless of the install arent up to par.

So you got mid but do you have the highs to help keep things 20-20 flat? I never thought so. Matter of fact, I find them to be dry and overzealous around 1kHz. Its like taking the treble and turning it way way down.

CA&E is like everyone else said, a good read but will often give higher reviews to the people that advertise more often. Its simple business, cant blame them.

 

I was regarding you as ignorant, but rather the statement in itself. If your intent was as you describe here, then I can easily agree. Although the way you portrayed it was that a $30k system should be the cats meow and your Pioneers beat it.

Drivers not withheld there is one key factor that makes up a good system .. Install.

 

6spdcoupe, have you actually had a chance to audition the component set in question? If so are you saying that there is a better option in the $200 range?

 

Yes on numerous occasions ... I do this for a living and many people here can attest to that. The midbass both in build and tonality is quite good, but difficult to work with due to its rear size. Although the rear basket is removable and has no affect on it's performance. The tweeter is what I found severely lacking.

Since you already bought em, try em out. they just might do the trick for you.

Here is a pic of a recent clients car that opted out the tweet in favor of a Rainbow CAL25.



He's been pleased with both ever since.

 

thanks for the info i will give them a shot and if the tweeters are a issue i will look at swapping them.

whats is it about the pio highs? to bright? no detail?

 

Just not enough. I found the set to be very mid centered, and serious lack of staging and detail.

 

Whats that a Honda or a Toyota?

I know for a fact you have prolly heard them. I thought you were more of a sales rep not an installer still...?

 

Well I do not consider myself a audiophile by anymeans but I do know quality. I have Klipsch RF series home system that I built and those things are awesome so I know what sounds good. I love SQ and balance and a sealed box which gives the bass I like.

Back in my younger days I was all PPI art series amps w 3 JLW6 in a sealed
box w/MB Quart comps.

Now that im older I really been away from the car audio scene but my current set up leaves much to be desired..

Im hopeing my new system will be CLEAN, powerful and TIGHT and more of a SQ system. I know there a much better choices out there but im on a budget.

From what I have read and what a few local installers have said, the Pio comps I got are a hell of a speaker for the $$. To be honest if I did not hear
so many good things about these I would have NEVER bought or even tought about Pionner never!!

Maybe the persons who do not like them have more of a keen ear and are more critical? Maybe the speakers sound better in some cars than others?
Maybe the install was half ***? Maybe these speakers really do suck?
I just have heard more praise on these than any other speaker that I was looking at...even more than Rainbow,MBQ. Polks any of them.

But I will give you my honest opinion on these when I install my system in the next few weeks.