I still cant decide if I want to do this or not, I F'n love the Mags, but I have zero room for anything inside the truck...I seriously dont need this much bass either. Its just too much bass for a great SQ setup, plus Ill be def in a year if I do keep them. I can get rid of the Mags like nothing too, I have a buddy who ask me when Im going to sell them to him every time I see him (so nobody on here is getting them, sorry )
But at times I LOVE it

I dont know what I would put in though. There are too many dang choices.
At first I thought one ten, I dont know if I could deal with that little of output. So maybe a pair of em, hell maybe three of em.
A few 8's or maybe four.
Heck even a single 12 maybe (Id rather do a pair of 10's though for a little more output over a single 12)

Would still be ran off the XXK1500, which is 1000watts at 2 ohm, 900 watts at 4 ohm.
My current box is about 2.2ish cu ft. IIRC, 2.5ish when you add driver volume. It takes up every inch of space and then some behind the passengers and middle seat.

I want something that takes up about half that space or less. Would like to be able to put the seat all the way back, move the amps from behind my seat to on the back wall above the box, and still have room to toss at least my cd case or some beers back there or something

Pair of 10s is probably my best bet. Something that sounds damn good but can still knock my socks off.
Pair of ID Max 10's is looking apealing...

Gimmie some ideas/thoughs/input/anything.

 

From the reviews I've seen, the ID Max's would work well - also maybe Fi Q's? I've been eyeing those as well for a different project I have coming up.

I have a stealthbox in my truck with a 10w3v2 in it. This certainly wouldn't handle the kind of power you are talking about, but from a volume perspective, it can still rumble the cab decently with only 300w on a single 10. I guess it depends on how much bass you need .

-Lam

 

Can you handle the mounting depth of the IDMAX behind there? They are 7 5/8" deep. Oh crap, if you fit the Mag's at almost 7", surely you can get another 5/8". It is no secret that the IDMAX is my favorite sub ever. I have never actually got to hear a 10, even though I use to own one. But, I have had a single 12" on two different occassions and they are incredible. The 10's will go in a sealed box as small as .6 and handle tons of power. I would think 500 watts to each sub in the truck would be pretty good indeed. For even smaller boxes, I still love the IDQ's but, I am not sure you could send that much power to them dailey. Even at 4 ohms each would get in the 450 watt range. If you have the room for the IDMAX, that would be choice one for me. You could fit both in a box around 1.25-1.5 and feed them that Arc sweetness at 2 or 4 ohms. NNNIIIICCCEEE!!!

One last thing...To really save some room, how about just one 10" IDMAX? It would still handle the 900-1,000 watts from your 1500XXK.

 

It's PITA finding a happy medium in our trucks. We all start with 10's but move to 12's for deeper bass but long for the quick kicks of the smaller subs. Is there no nirvana to be found here? I think maybe a mix of a single 12 with a pair of 8's might be the key here.

 

Frick! I had 7/8ths of a lengthy reply typed up, left the computer, and it restarted itself !!!

Anywho. I would like to get ahold of a Fi Q for a little play time, I dont think its going to give me the SQ that Im looking for though. People sure talk it up, but it still doesnt sound majorly impressive to me I guess...I dunno.

I should be able to fit an IDMax 10 or two easily. Oodles of mounting depth, just not a whole lot of airspace. I drew up a couple rough box ideas from measurments I think would fit pretty good, and came up with one that would give me about .6 per sub (downfiring) and around .8 per sub (front firing).

IDQs have crossed my mind too, I was thinking about a trio of them though Get dual 2's and I can wire them all up for 3 ohm final, should be getting between 900-1000 watts I believe off the XXK1500. I could fit three of them in a box the same size, or even a little smaller, than a box for two IDMax 10s. Only thing is, I only have 33 inches wide...it would be a squeeze to fit them all the way accross. Im not sure if the two Maxs or the three IDQs would have more output.

Im not sure if a single Max 10 would give me the output I want though. Thats my major concern with all this; not enough output for me. I could always get one and if its not enough add a second easily.

It is a PITA Impact. Hard to have a kick azz setup and still have a somewhat functional truck.

 

You hit the nail on the head here. I got the MDX because it had more cargo area than my wife's FX35. But, unless I want to put an enclosure in said cargo area, I am limited to 5" of mounting depth in the stock sub location. The IDQ does a good job running basically free air in that spot but, if I threw the same sub in a nice small sealed enclosure in the cargo area, it would perform twice as well. Of course, I still plan on putting a 10" or 12" IDMAX in an enclosure in the cargo area and make it so I can remove it and go back to the IDQ whenever I need a little space. Ok, now I am rambling sorry.


I like the 3 IDQ idea or a pair of 10" IDMAX best. I think either one would be an awesome SQ setup with plenty of output.

 

I really like the two IDMax 10s best I think...talk about $$$ though. I really dont want to spend a whole lot more on a new setup than what I sell the two Mags for. (paid 400 total for both, probably sell em for that).
A pair of IDMax 10's will be fairly more than that. Def have to go used for those.

I forgot about these things though


DA D9/TDX. I kind of have a soft spot for Diamond A pair of those can be had for less than a pair of IDMaxs I do believe.
.5 sealed volume too.

 

My second favorite sub of all time. When I had my Acura TL a few years back, I had one of the first gen TDX subs. It was a 10" in a ported box and ported up thru the rear deck. I had it running off the sub channel of the Big Memphis Belle with 1,100 watts at 1 ohm. It was amazing the amount of bass that single 10" produced and clear as a bell. Even the installer I had build the box said it was probably the best 10" sub install he had ever heard. If the new generation of TDX is still as good as the old ones, they are right up there with the IDMAX in my opinion.

 

The D9 is just a rebadged TDX as far as I know, I dont think anything has changed.

I know those are power hungry bishes though. A pair of them off 1k watts probably wouldnt do them much justice.
How did it sound ported? Thats another option I considered (single 10 ported), I dont know how much I want to go ported though.
A ported box might end up taking the same amount of space though...once you figure in airspace needed and all the space a port takes up....

 

Honestly, I have never, ever been a fan of ported. I trusted my installer on that one and he nailed it. It probably rivaled the IDMAX sealed as far as quality and man did it hit hard. Placed in the trunk and firing up thru the rear deck with 1k watts, you could feel it in your chest. I have never had a ported box since. Mainly because I have never had space for one but done right, it made a believer out of me.

That is one advantage of the IDMAX is it will takes tons of power or it will still sound great on less power. If my plans go ok, I will have a 10" or 12" with around 500 watts. I just do not think the MDX charging system will handle 1k watts without some upgrade work.

 

So...riddle me this if you can; output wise, how would you compared that D910 to the Mag you had? (I know I know, different vehicle, different intall, yadda yadda, but if you could take a guess )

Thats the thing about ported boxes, changing the tuning or box size a little can make a whole new sound for a sub. Its hard to get it right the first time and like it. Unless you have a lot of time to build numerous boxes they are a PITA for good SQ.

If I went with the D9, I would about be stuck with one just because of the power issue. If I didnt like it, Im either tough outta luck or else change the sub stage again.
As you said, with the IDmax I could try one, then add a second later on and still be decent for power.

On Diamonds web site they have specs for a ported 'All Around' box-1.25 cu ft with a 4 inch port, 16ish inches long. Works out to F'n a 42Hz box frequency
Then in a box plan for the 10 inch D9 they have plans for one box...45 Hz, not sure on the cu. ft. though.

Those seem WAY to high for a tuning frequency to me. Can you say no lows?? lol, I dunno. Maybe Im already asking too much for a 10 inch sub:o




Ended up pulling the sub box and Mags out today and messing around with just a single Mag. Im not sure if I can take the ouput hit lol. I guess a pair of 10's (ID Max) should be louder than the single Mag sealed though.

Ended up pulling the 1500 out too, and have wires everywhere. Going to try to pretty things up a little better Im almost temped to go buy a toolbox tomorrow that I can mount my amps in in the bed. Would save a good amount of space inside the cab. Im not sure how 'weather proof' you can make one though. Kinda scared about the elements. I know people who do it and are fine though.
Got some box ideas too since I had the Mag box out. A pair of IDmaxs would fit fine and dandy. Never tried to figure anything up for a D9 though.

 

This is just a guess because it was 3 or 4 years ago and I have been thru way too many sub setups since but....

I think the single 10" TDX sub in the ported box was louder and hit harder and lower than the Mag ever did in my truck. There are tons of variables and differences but, to me it outperformed the Mag. And both running about the same amount of power(Arc 1500 versus Memphis Belle). I loved the setup I had in my TL. I had an Eclipse AV-8132 head unit up front, Diamond 661 comps(the older better ones), Diamond coaxials in the rear doors, and the single 10" TDX. All powered by the Memphis Belle. To date, it is the best sounding system I have had. I could never get my truck or have yet to get the MDX to sound that good.

I still love the IDMAX as it is more idiot proof(really good for me). You can put it in any sealed box in the range they recommend with anywhere from 200-1k+ watts and it will sound good in all of them. That is just hard to beat.

 

Cool
That does sound like a pretty nice stetup in the TL.
I think it might be between a pair of Maxs and a ported D9. I just dont know what else to look at really for higher end 10s.

I took off for the city today to check out some different things. First shop I went to carried Diamond, but they were selling out of them and only had a few lower model Diamonds. Got a price on a pair of Alpine Type Xs and Boston G5s for shlits and giggles...650 and 550 bucks respectivley.

Next shop was pretty interesting to go too. I usually like goin in that place and BSing with the owner etc, but dang not today. Went in there, told them I had a somewhat highish end setup and that I wanted so downsize the subs a little for some more room. I also mentioned I had subs in there now that were somewhat comparable to a W7 (to give them an idea since they carry JL and have never heard of anything I owned). Well first they start me off with some prefab box with a 12w1 and a JL 250/1 amp. Politley told him I didnt need an amp and Im looking for something a little nicer than the W1s, was thinking a pair of 10s.
From there he shows me some w3v3s....again Im like "I dunno, W3s have never impressed me much, Im still thinking something comparable to somehting like a w6 or w7"
So for about an hour he tell me about how great these w3s are. Hardly mentions anything I would consider. Blah blah blah...they were pushing those w3s damn hard I finally told them to hook a pair up for me for the hell of it.

Anywho, I BSed with them a little more and walked out a little dissapointed. Cant get much accomplished when a salesman is set on selling you "the most kickass set of subs your going to get for 400 bucks"
I was so proud of myself that I didnt kick him in the nutz though lol

He told me my Arc amp was a piece of poo too , so now Im thinking of upgrading to a 1000/1.........

 

He made sure to send me home with this even, so when I realize that I made a big mistake not buying them today I could show them that and still get a stellar deal. I will admit, they came down in price quite a bit




On a positive side, this has almost changed the way I try to deal...
Them "These are the best, I would buy them"
Me "Na I really dont like em"
Them "....................Are you serious????"
Me not "Yeah"
THem "Shlit................we'll take 150 bucks off"
Me "Deal"

I just have to pretend I dont want what Im buying

Ok, Im done talking about a pair of pissin W3s now....

 

So I wonder what these are like...
http://www.cardomain.com/item/ECLSW8000

http://www.cardomain.com/item/ECLSW8000

If they are anything like the old Alums, they would be pretty sweet. .3 cu ft too?? Sweet.
The place that wanted to sell me those W3s carries Eclipse, I totally forgot about these things though. Coulda had a chance to listen/look at one.

Cant find a whole lot of info on em though.