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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Last night I was rocking out to some pink and looked down and my tweeter light was glowing. I adjusted the EQ and got it to turn off but my question is, is it allright to have that light on or if that light is on it means turn them down. It wasnt bright like when I was first setting my gains but just glowing and would get a little bright every once in a while. I know it is the over load light but is it all right to be on tell you blow it or do you always need to make sure it if off?
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Last night I was rocking out to some pink
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Last night I was rocking out to some pink and looked down and my tweeter light was glowing. I adjusted the EQ and got it to turn off but my question is, is it allright to have that light on or if that light is on it means turn them down. It wasnt bright like when I was first setting my gains but just glowing and would get a little bright every once in a while. I know it is the over load light but is it all right to be on tell you blow it or do you always need to make sure it if off?
That's normal from what I can tell. Looks kinda pretty too. Let me find my manual though to be certain.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Pink Floyd. Not Pink what ever that ***** is know for. The last song I know of hers is get this party started.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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I'm not sure about your particular tweets, but I know it's common practice to wire a lamp with a tweeter to burn off excess power. It works like a fuse so the worst you can do is blow the bulb without ruining the tweeter. I'd guess illumination is a "friendly warning" from your speaker not to push it much further...
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Well I read the manual and the huge guy is right. It is a halogen bulb so it's going to handle a fair amount of power. Consider this though Dconder pushed like 300w through these Germs that I bought from him. I'm pushed 100w and that bulb is flashing brightly. I'm 100% sure there's no danger to the speaker. I just got to assure that the amps aren't clipping to be 110%.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Allright thanks I am going up to the stereo shop later this week to get the system tuned again after have the gain **** go out on my JL. Also while this thread is open how can you tell if your system is in phaze or not I had to unhook everything to send my amp and and I lost track of whats + and - on the speaker wires. I think my system is out of phase but how can I tell for sure? I have a test tone to tell but they sound the same either way if I flip the + and - on one. Ive had the speakers wired both ways and cant tell witht the inphase and out of phase tone.
 

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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Well I think it's totally by ear. If the polarity of the speakers are set correct. (speaker + goes to amp +) then it should be in phase. BUT.. when you adjust a electronic crossover and set the cut off to tight tollerances it can go out of phase. Now this was according to my Pioneer 6800MP manual.

Anyways what I do on my headunit is set the electronic crossover by ear doing the front channels, center, and rear all alone on the same hard hitting full range song. Then I pull in the subs and set the low pass to the same or higher than the high pass level. While I'm doing that I'll change the phase since it's on that same page on my head unit. If the bass cleans up and sounds tighter it's back in phase. Out of phase will sound muddy and like it's delayed a fraction of a second.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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I thought you could take a 12 volt battery, or a battery from a cordless drill and touch each speaker seperately and see what way the cone moves. If it moves outward it is correct. ??????
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Ive know of that one but it is a pain to get to my amp and wires just to test all of them, also I was scared to do that to my rainbows.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FX4ME2
I thought you could take a 12 volt battery, or a battery from a cordless drill and touch each speaker seperately and see what way the cone moves. If it moves outward it is correct. ??????
You can, but why? The speakers are already marked + & - and so is your amp. If you have to question if the company making your speakers....

If your talking about polarity after running wires most if not all speaker wires are marked on one wire of the pair with either a name, line, or groove. Just make sure you use the marked wire as the + all the time and your set.

oh btw, 9 volt batteries work too.
 

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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Yeah I am talking about after ive run my wires I can do all that but with my intall it means a lot of work and was thinking I could tell by a test tone that goes inphaze and out of phase
 

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Old May 9, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by extremeethan
Pink Floyd. Not Pink what ever that ***** is know for. The last song I know of hers is get this party started.
haha I was hoping it was pink floyd Might as well start it off like me and all my buddies were sitting around listening to some britney spears and....
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Yeah I am talking about after ive run my wires I can do all that but with my intall it means a lot of work and was thinking I could tell by a test tone that goes inphaze and out of phaze
Funny how google works when you put in phase test tones:

http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/multimediatest.html

Phase is just the up and down action of the wave form of a sound. If the speakers are out of phase and the speakers will "cancel" each other out.

Of course you know that cause you was asking, but for the sake of future seachers I said it.
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Impact9
Funny how google works when you put in phase test tones:

http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/multimediatest.html

Phase is just the up and down action of the wave form of a sound. If the speakers are out of phase and the speakers will "cancel" each other out.

Of course you know that cause you was asking, but for the sake of future seachers I said it.

That is correct, if the speakers are out of phase from "each other" the sound will cancel out. But if they are both just hooked up backwards (both out of phase), then you wouldnt know by that.

The best way to check is like listed above. Take the battery from your cordless drill or similar product and simply touch the speaker wires to the terminals on the battery. If the speaker moves outward (for door speakers) then you are right. If they move into the door, then you need to flip the wires either at the amp or on the speaker. Which ever is easiest.

The only problem with the phase tracks is, if both speakers are in the same phase then they will both produce the same sound. It doesnt mean that they are in the correct phase.
 
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