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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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What for the rear speakers?

Can not decide what to put in for the rear speakers

Front SPKS: KFC-X1700P
Rear SPKS:
AMP: KAC-X542

SUBS: (2) KFC-XW1002DVC
SUB AMP: KAC-X812D



that is the setup I have so far, all is pretty much Kenwood eXcelon (I am trying to stick with eXcelon, this is going in a 1998 Ford F150 extended cab)
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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ditch the rear fill.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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I like styx's idea or putting a less powered speaker back there... I'm in your same delema...
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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If there was no back seating having no rear fill would be understandable. On my 4 door I like panning to the back to let the kids play the xbox or listen to their kid music. Also if you have passengers i'd think they'd want to hear more than booms.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Impact9
If there was no back seating having no rear fill would be understandable. On my 4 door I like panning to the back to let the kids play the xbox or listen to their kid music. Also if you have passengers i'd think they'd want to hear more than booms.
give em head phones
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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I would just ditch the back speakers too. If you really want them, just get the 5x7 version of what you are putting up front.


All that KFC I keep seeing from that post has me hungry for chicken...
 
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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what do you think about me puttin these in the back?

KFC-XR901


another question is can i even fit a 6x9 in the 5x7 location?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Never been a fan of Kenwood speakers. I'd go with Polk or BA or Infinity 5x7's. Don't waste your time trying to fit a 6x9.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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I wouldn't waste my time putting anything back there, rear fill = bad SQ
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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I wouldn't waste my time putting anything back there, rear fill = bad SQ
I'm sorry, but I'm still just not understanding the no rear fill thing. I've searched and read a little bit about it, but if somebody could kind of explain the logic of not doing anything for the rear I would be grateful.

Why no rear fill exactly? How does it hurt sound quality by having rear fill? Thanks guys, this place has loads of information and I'd be lost without it. Thanks again!!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheArcher
I'm sorry, but I'm still just not understanding the no rear fill thing. I've searched and read a little bit about it, but if somebody could kind of explain the logic of not doing anything for the rear I would be grateful.

Why no rear fill exactly? How does it hurt sound quality by having rear fill? Thanks guys, this place has loads of information and I'd be lost without it. Thanks again!!
it pulls the stereo soundstage too far back. simple as that... when studio engineers mix a stereo cd they do so with stereo studio monitors setup in front of them the do NOT use headphones unless they are trying to pick something out. with rear fill it makes the reproduction sound less like the engineer intended too and more like headphones.... a tool which is usually used for critical listening but not so good as far as musical reproduction goes. the sound stage needs to be in front of you not around you like most people think.... this is tru for ANY time stereo sound is to be reproduced.
 

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by styxnpicks
it pulls the stereo soundstage too far back. simple as that... when studio engineers mix a stereo cd they do so with stereo studio monitors setup in front of them the do NOT use headphones unless they are trying to pick something out. with rear fill it makes the reproduction sound less like the engineer intended too and more like headphones.... a tool which is usually used for critical listening but not so good as far as musical reproduction goes. the sound stage needs to be in front of you not around you like most people think.... this is tru for ANY time stereo sound is to be reproduced.
Perfect, that makes sense and I understand exactly why people are against rear fill now. Thank you styxnpicks!!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Perfect, that makes sense and I understand exactly why people are against rear fill now. Thank you styxnpicks!!
Thats the best way I can put it. I also argue the fact that 5.1 movies need to be played back in 5.1..... but of course my mom doesn't understand that and so we watch movies in stereo through the tv... barf
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by styxnpicks
Thats the best way I can put it. I also argue the fact that 5.1 movies need to be played back in 5.1..... but of course my mom doesn't understand that and so we watch movies in stereo through the tv... barf
Have you listened to music in 5.1???? Or, does your Mom keep you from that too?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brypink2
Have you listened to music in 5.1???? Or, does your Mom keep you from that too?
yup she's mean like that... no really there inst enuff 5.1 audio cd's for me to warrant building a 5.1 setup in my truck.
 
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