Okay guys and gals...... '02 supercab, what are your tweeter placement pref's and why? Might try to tackle this job this weekend, so any info would be appreciated...

Thanks

 

Just above and forward of your and your front seat passenger's little toes.

Ricksta

 

I was looking at Q-Logic's component enclosure, the one the goes down at the kickpanel. Does this really work? It seems that my left leg would block the highs, and mute the sound too much. Isn't it better to put components up higher on the door?

Also, are components better than a good set of 5x7 coaxials?

 

Rouchs- I thought that Blocking may be the case also. The trick used by kicks is quite clever. The human ear tends to "Prioritize" incoming sounds and logically arrange them. This is an overly simple explanantion I know, but it is what happens. I pickup lows /mids/ highs right by my left leg, but they are "projected" up and center along with the right kick's input to a central location. With some tweaking and equalization you can move the soundstage around a bit. I've tried several locations and the kick panels image very nicely esp the highs. Just my 2 cents.

Ricksta

 

Kicks are the way to go.

Q-forms a nice, and for the price they are hard to beat. However, custome kicks are definately the way to go.



Im sure the other Chris will come along and post some pictures of his custom kicks.

 

Just finished installing tweets in the "A" pillars, eye level following the curve of the glass. The imaging was amazing compared to having coaxials in the doors. Between that and foolong with the time correction on the HU the sound is unbelievable !!!

 

Do you have pics of your install? Did you built a custom mount for the tweeters?

I'd like to put tweeters in the A pillar also, but I have gauges on the left side A pillar. I'm wondering if there would still be room, down at the bottom, against the dash.

 

I'll try and post some pics later today. No custom mounts were necessary, I just used the flush mounting cups that came with the speakers. As far as the gauges, I had the pillar pod and the tweets will still work with the gauges, they would be higher than where the gauges sit. However, if you prefer, some guys have mounted them down low just above the bottom curve of the pillar.

Pics are in my gallery:
https://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?gnum=2376

 

RayCee, thanks for the pics. They look great.

I thought I read somewhere that the tweeters and mids needed to be positioned fairly close together. I assume that your image is still clear, and the sounds aren't too separated.

I would prefer the tweeters located lower on the A-pillar, but I'm concerned about imaging. Does the sound bounce off the glass without losing any clarity?

Sorry about the 20 questions: I'm trying to learn as much as possible, so I install my system right the first time.

 

My understanding is you do want the tweets as close to your mids as possible. The pillar mounted tweets are more of an addition to the setup to improve imaging. I also think they would sound better with some directional cups so they point more straight back. But that's just what i've gathered so far.

 

You can mount your tweets just above the curve (at the bottom) on the A pillars and the sound is still awesome. With the sound waves bouncing off of the windshield, it puts the highs just about ear level. Imaging is not hurt one bit mounting your tweets this way.

 

The kick panels are most definitely the place to mount your speakers for optimum imaging/staging/depth. It helps to equal out path length differences thereby creating a more defined center stage image. If you are wanting to compete I strongly suggest that you not fire tweets into the glass because it will largely effect not only frequency response of the speaker but also arrival times and be a nightmare to correct. Anyway, tweets in the a-pillars is a good place to mount them but lower down in the pillar (close to the dash works best. I would also suggest angling them at the dome light and not trying to run them below about 8khz since they will pull an image to one side. The a-pillars have always been looked at as a good helper locations to cure the rainbow effect that some systems experience. The problem you get sometimes however is cancellation due to path length differences between the kick or door mounted speaker. The cancellation can be overcome with time phase alignment but many people don't have this capability in their system so kicks have become a routine placement for uber sound.

Anyway, if you want to look at my kicks that I built check out my gallery. I don't use a conventional speaker but you can at least get an idea of how to build a set if you want and how to properly angle them.

 

When I was going to mount the tweets in the A pillars I tried various locations and found that up high seemed to give me better imaging, of course thats just my opinion. Also, try not to mount them so that they point directly into the windshield, but rather follow the curve of the glass.