Which do I buy? Alpine Infinity or Polk?
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So in conclusion, you gentlemen must be in the minority, since most of us cannot make these distinctions. But it’s certainly nice to know that you are listening to what you believe to be the best, whether or not it’s true doesn’t really matter.
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That is a well thought out and much better explanation of your original thought process. In portion I can agree to that and again in portion I can also disagree. Our missing link here is our identical vehicle to do the A/B comparison with. Now this point then becomes totally moot because it is physically impossible to swap out speakers fast enough for someone to retain a solid sonic image in their head for comparison sake. The 30 minutes or so that it would take to swap out speakers is too long.
The closest that we could get to achieving an A/B comparison in a car would be to have 2 identical vehicles with identical HU's and both HU's matched to output exactly the same amount of power. In other words a perfect A/B is next to impossible for the average person. But if given this as close to perfect as you can get scenario then yes people would be able to notice the difference between the sets.
So essentially, if they could tell the difference in an A/B comparison on a display board than yes they would also be able to tell a difference in an A/B comparison in identical cars.
Here is the real kicker! Those speakers you think sound perfect to your ear on the sound board may sound worse in car than the pair you thought sounded worse on the display board. Again it really depends upon off-axis response and cab attenuation along with reflection and how well the door acts as an infinite baffle. Many things to consider here including the Psycho-acoustic effect.
In short, what I am saying is this. Yes, most people can tell a difference between the different speakers. The A/B comparison for in car is a moot point since it isn't going to happen. Could a person blindfolded pick out the Infinity set installed in three identical vehicles? That depends on if he has a reference.
Vonderbach,
You just gotta watch those blanket statements
The closest that we could get to achieving an A/B comparison in a car would be to have 2 identical vehicles with identical HU's and both HU's matched to output exactly the same amount of power. In other words a perfect A/B is next to impossible for the average person. But if given this as close to perfect as you can get scenario then yes people would be able to notice the difference between the sets.
So essentially, if they could tell the difference in an A/B comparison on a display board than yes they would also be able to tell a difference in an A/B comparison in identical cars.
Here is the real kicker! Those speakers you think sound perfect to your ear on the sound board may sound worse in car than the pair you thought sounded worse on the display board. Again it really depends upon off-axis response and cab attenuation along with reflection and how well the door acts as an infinite baffle. Many things to consider here including the Psycho-acoustic effect.
In short, what I am saying is this. Yes, most people can tell a difference between the different speakers. The A/B comparison for in car is a moot point since it isn't going to happen. Could a person blindfolded pick out the Infinity set installed in three identical vehicles? That depends on if he has a reference.
Vonderbach,
You just gotta watch those blanket statements
Last edited by cgorris; Jan 16, 2004 at 12:14 PM.
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Originally posted by cgorris
That is a well thought out and much better explanation of your original thought process. In portion I can agree to that and again in portion I can also disagree. Our missing link here is our identical vehicle to do the A/B comparison with. Now this point then becomes totally moot because it is physically impossible to swap out speakers fast enough for someone to retain a solid sonic image in their head for comparison sake. The 30 minutes or so that it would take to swap out speakers is too long.
The closest that we could get to achieving an A/B comparison in a car would be to have 2 identical vehicles with identical HU's and both HU's matched to output exactly the same amount of power. In other words a perfect A/B is next to impossible for the average person. But if given this as close to perfect as you can get scenario then yes people would be able to notice the difference between the sets.
So essentially, if they could tell the difference in an A/B comparison on a display board than yes they would also be able to tell a difference in an A/B comparison in identical cars.
Here is the real kicker! Those speakers you think sound perfect to your ear on the sound board may sound worse in car than the pair you thought sounded worse on the display board. Again it really depends upon off-axis response and cab attenuation along with reflection and how well the door acts as an infinite baffle. Many things to consider here including the Psycho-acoustic effect.
In short, what I am saying is this. Yes, most people can tell a difference between the different speakers. The A/B comparison for in car is a moot point since it isn't going to happen. Could a person blindfolded pick out the Infinity set installed in three identical vehicles? That depends on if he has a reference.
Vonderbach,
You just gotta watch those blanket statements
That is a well thought out and much better explanation of your original thought process. In portion I can agree to that and again in portion I can also disagree. Our missing link here is our identical vehicle to do the A/B comparison with. Now this point then becomes totally moot because it is physically impossible to swap out speakers fast enough for someone to retain a solid sonic image in their head for comparison sake. The 30 minutes or so that it would take to swap out speakers is too long.
The closest that we could get to achieving an A/B comparison in a car would be to have 2 identical vehicles with identical HU's and both HU's matched to output exactly the same amount of power. In other words a perfect A/B is next to impossible for the average person. But if given this as close to perfect as you can get scenario then yes people would be able to notice the difference between the sets.
So essentially, if they could tell the difference in an A/B comparison on a display board than yes they would also be able to tell a difference in an A/B comparison in identical cars.
Here is the real kicker! Those speakers you think sound perfect to your ear on the sound board may sound worse in car than the pair you thought sounded worse on the display board. Again it really depends upon off-axis response and cab attenuation along with reflection and how well the door acts as an infinite baffle. Many things to consider here including the Psycho-acoustic effect.
In short, what I am saying is this. Yes, most people can tell a difference between the different speakers. The A/B comparison for in car is a moot point since it isn't going to happen. Could a person blindfolded pick out the Infinity set installed in three identical vehicles? That depends on if he has a reference.
Vonderbach,
You just gotta watch those blanket statements
