Tornado... Dont Waste Your Money!!!
Tornado... Dont Waste Your Money!!!
Saw the infomercial and was impressed, so I watched... Looked cool... Thought about it and talked it over with a fellow gear head. We both agree, AINT GONNA WORK DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY!
Common Sense! It wont work at least on these Tritons. Why you ask?
1. TB will restrict or disrupt the "tornado" effect at all throttle positions except at WOT.
2. Even if the "tornado" effect gets past the TB, it has to enter the intake manifold where the air is the split to 8 different areas. Entering one at a time going around corners...
3. The air and fuel is not even mixed until right before it enters the combustion chamber. The injectors spray the fuel into the stream of air flowing into the combustion chamber. No way that "tornado" makes it down that far.
Its a interesting concept, and MIGHT work on vehicles with carbs not injectors. Where the fuel is mixed higher up in the intake. If the tornado had time to mix with the fuel long enough to make a difference. I propose it cant get past the TB and if it does at WOT it breaks up in the intake...
Sounds to me to be more of a hinderence? A "bottle-neck" restricting/disturbing airflow.
Just my opinion...
Any disagree-ers?
Common Sense! It wont work at least on these Tritons. Why you ask?
1. TB will restrict or disrupt the "tornado" effect at all throttle positions except at WOT.
2. Even if the "tornado" effect gets past the TB, it has to enter the intake manifold where the air is the split to 8 different areas. Entering one at a time going around corners...
3. The air and fuel is not even mixed until right before it enters the combustion chamber. The injectors spray the fuel into the stream of air flowing into the combustion chamber. No way that "tornado" makes it down that far.
Its a interesting concept, and MIGHT work on vehicles with carbs not injectors. Where the fuel is mixed higher up in the intake. If the tornado had time to mix with the fuel long enough to make a difference. I propose it cant get past the TB and if it does at WOT it breaks up in the intake...
Sounds to me to be more of a hinderence? A "bottle-neck" restricting/disturbing airflow.
Just my opinion...
Any disagree-ers?
That's exactly what happens in our engines. I saw the same show. Did a search on the site, and it's been around for some time. Everyone gave it a big thumbs down.
Like you say, would probably work as they say in a carb motor where the air is mixed with the fuel prior to entering the intake.
Like you say, would probably work as they say in a carb motor where the air is mixed with the fuel prior to entering the intake.
I disagree. You add energy when you make something move. So, this device causes the intake air to swirl around more which adds energy to the air and when this charged-up air gets into the engine and burns, it gives up all it's extra energy in the form of heat which gives you more power at the wheels.
BTW, anybody interested in investing in a perpetual motion machine that I just invented?
BTW, anybody interested in investing in a perpetual motion machine that I just invented?
I just thought of another reason why this thing won't work in our rigs. Since you have to install this thing in the tube just after the filter, once this swirling air hits the curve in the tube, it's all over at that point........ It's just the same old air as before.
Now, what you are saying is correct for a motor that they install this thing directly on top of the carb, inside the stock air cleaner. Now, that I could believe would have an effect. The swirling air is being mixed with the fuel before it reaches the intake and is already done it's job of mixing better with the fuel. Something to do with atomization or something....
All of this is just theory on my part. No hands on experience. Just what I know from a high school physics class many moons ago and from working on carborated motors.
Now, what you are saying is correct for a motor that they install this thing directly on top of the carb, inside the stock air cleaner. Now, that I could believe would have an effect. The swirling air is being mixed with the fuel before it reaches the intake and is already done it's job of mixing better with the fuel. Something to do with atomization or something....
All of this is just theory on my part. No hands on experience. Just what I know from a high school physics class many moons ago and from working on carborated motors.
I dont know about this "air in motion" or adding energy. The air is already moving very quickly when its drawn in. I suppose you could be right, but common sense is telling me different. I still dont see how you can keep that much of a swirl or charge when you put the air around all the corners and basically forced it into an opening about 1/4 or less of the size of the original opening (TB). The intake valve openings are not that big. I would think that the force or surge of fast moving air would be caused to straight when moving through the TB, through the intake manifold, through the valve opening and into the combustion chamber? Each component narrows from one to the next.
I am no expert in turbulance but I know that the slightest thing can disrupt airflow to the Nth degree.
Take an airplane. You place ANYTHING on that wing surface, like a thin layer of ice, and SHE'S COMIN DOWN BABY! Common sense tells us that a thin layer of ice should not hurt a thing. The wing still holds its shape, the weight shouldn't be THAT great.... But that kind of thinking got plenty of people killed years ago before engineers and scientist discovered what was really happening.
ANALOGY:
Take an air compressor. Pump it up to 200 psi. Then spin the air inside the comressor. Say a 200 MPH spin or maybe 10,000 RPM... Whatever!
Then go to the air hose and put on the spray nozel. Spray that air out of the hose. Is it spinning? I think not.
However, I COULD still be wrong! I just tend to disagree with this "gimick!"
I am no expert in turbulance but I know that the slightest thing can disrupt airflow to the Nth degree.
Take an airplane. You place ANYTHING on that wing surface, like a thin layer of ice, and SHE'S COMIN DOWN BABY! Common sense tells us that a thin layer of ice should not hurt a thing. The wing still holds its shape, the weight shouldn't be THAT great.... But that kind of thinking got plenty of people killed years ago before engineers and scientist discovered what was really happening.
ANALOGY:
Take an air compressor. Pump it up to 200 psi. Then spin the air inside the comressor. Say a 200 MPH spin or maybe 10,000 RPM... Whatever!
Then go to the air hose and put on the spray nozel. Spray that air out of the hose. Is it spinning? I think not.
However, I COULD still be wrong! I just tend to disagree with this "gimick!"
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I tend to disagree with Rand on some subjects,but I wholeheartedly agree on this one. It's more hype like the the "Poweraid" or "Helix Power tower". I do agree it would have an effect if it was closer to the fuel/air mixing point,though. It may work better on TBI or carbed vehicles. As for air flow moving quickly at the filter,I can vouch for that one,lol. I forgot to unwrap the K&N after a steam cleaning once,and the filter collapsed and twisted into half the original size!
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