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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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I want a 500,000 candle power light for the back of the truck so when someone approaches me from behind with their high beams on I can blind them…


Anyway, if you find it hard to see with oncoming traffic due to their lights being to bright just do as I do, first light them up big time with major candle power and close your eyes until they have passed you. It really saves your vision and if you have enough candle light power you could actually fry their vision and they will never be able to drive again, well at least not with a really long stick to pound on the pavement so they can make sure there is pavement under them…
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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I think a better answer to the problem is NO lights. Who needs lights if we are all driving with NVG (Night Vision Goggles). You want to see people freak out try driving 140mph down the turnpike with no lights in a pitch black night with the supercharger whining like a mother as you zip pass oncoming traffic and those traveling in the same direction it just makes them chit their pants (“what the hell was that?”)


All made possible by NVG…


Oh, and if a cop tries to chase you down wearing his NVG simply turn on your 500,000 candle power light in the back of the truck and it will fry his NVG. It’s like driving around in stealth mode…
 

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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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toomuch light from uncoming vehicles

Here is a link to Vehicles that have similar problems

http://www.motorists.com/issues/drl/saturnboycott.html

BJ
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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too much light from oncoming vehicles

When new vehicles are delivered with the following equipment

Daytime running lamps operating in the low beam at aprox 60% of the brilliance

and Have high and low beam in a one lamp light system

And have parking lamps supplied in amber color.

Why are two bright lamps supplied in the front bumper
System That are hard wired to operation of the Park Lights
low beam operations and high beam operations,

Why is there no illuminated and worded dash mounted switch
within the operators fingertip reach. To ie.

Allow the additional lamps to be switched on and off as required
for the road and weather conditions determined by the operator,

Allow the operator to take advantage of fuel and energy savings

Are these lamps installed at the factory to purposly create discomfort for the eyes of oncoming motorists,

And to have a made in Canada Road Rage Promotion

BJ
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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[i]Originally posted by Raoul [/i

I had to add two additional batteries under the hood to run my 500,000 candlepower boom beam aircraft landing lights.

Not only do they think they just witnessed the end of the world, they also get an instant sun tan.

ROFLMAO!!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by jaymz
I flash my brights at them, and if they don't dim theirs, I turn mine on and hope I fry their freakin' retinas right out of their skulls.

 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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when we look at the B.C and Canadian regulations for vehicle lighting in the attached Links

http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/...8/26_58-00.htm

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/199.../regle1-e.html

ASK THIS QUESTION,

Why are the regulators not writing better rules to control the installation of Daytime running Light
modules that are Built in Canada

see attached site

http://www.pacificinsight.com/

This is the DRL that operates the low beam at aprox 60% of brilliance is a far superior installation

and eliminates the additional lamps that are showing up on the Canadian roads,

To torture the eyes of all oncoming vehicle drivers

Because no one in our federal govt. has taken the initiative to set proper standards in place

To control LIGHT POLLUTION we currently
find out on the Highways that are supposed to
safety controlled by the Managers that are paid the Big Bucks

And are spending hours drafting tons and tons of Drivel, to explain and control the
application of a model of DRL that allows additional lamps on vehicles

This is a form or BUILT IN CANADA ROADS ROAD RAGE.

Why would and regulatory group allow the DRL to operate DRL in daytime and as other lamps at night

WITHOUT SWITCHING to shut off the ADDED light at the front of all vehicles,

Give your head a shake Vehicle regulators an wake up before we Kill more people on the highway systems

CHeers bj
 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Question confused....

I'm having trouble understanding your beef. I get that you don't like not having a switch for your aux lights on your Freestar. You could put a switch on it if you like. Those lights on Freestars and Windstars aren't that bright. I am going to check out their function at work when I get a chance. Please explain your problem with DRLs?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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Thanks for the comments much apreciated , My point is this is a new vehicle

and I have been told by the Ford service depot that they
could instal the switch but the warranty would be voided

I am a B.C licensed mechanic and Vehicle inspector retired
and could do the work easily,

But I should not have to deal with repair complaints on new vehicles, Thats what we have regulations and customer services for, that are supposed to, control public and highway safety
for you and I.

When the weather is cold and I want to run the engine to keep warm and have the gauges visible, And want to stop on the side of the road or street to deal with passengers,or unloading goodies

I cannot shut off the lower lamps mounted in the bumper
to respect the eyes of the uncoming motorists

Or when oncoming vehicles flash me, I cannot shut off the
Bumper monted lamps that are hard wired to Park lamp. high beam and low beam operations, ( poor big picture design )

The freestar has the Insight dseign DRL operated at a lower brillance in the low beam mode and It works very nicely.

These have been used in Canada quite a lot, There are 2 versions
we see on the roads here

The second version on vehicles are using the added lamp
DRL that are also approved in Canada

and they leave a lot to be desired, The low brillance type in the low beam
is far superior because it does not add additional light
that can be lit on the front of the vehicle

Have a nice day BJ
 

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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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"uncoming vehicles" Sorry that one got me.

But just so you know, I put 100w 9005 in my fog lights and will be putting high wattage 9008's in my 04 as soon as the black market produces them. lol. But the thing is, I dont drive with my fog lights on when there is traffic (I am trying to figure out how to wire them so I can run them with highbeams). I am as nice to others eyes as possible. lol

~Colby
 
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks and please remember That

This may be coming to a place near you, Or may already be there

My complaint unit was delivered with a Daytime driving lamp system that operates in the low beam ( really nice operation)

The unit was deliverd with 2 really nice amber colored parking lamps

Some one at the factory decided we need 2 more parking lamps mounted in the front bumper

And had them wired up to the parking lamp operation, low beam operation and high beam operation

With no way for the driver to shut them off.

This installation exceeds the Motor vehicle act regulation
for allowable light for parking lamps # 410.1 and 410. 2

BY 100% more than required .

This allows these vehicles to torture the eyes of oncoming motorists

And has taken away the ability for safe drivers to control all Vehicle lighting To meet road and traffic conditions

Please see the unresolved safety complaint on the weblink below

http://www.rafeonline.com/showthread...&threadid=3035

Have anice day BJ
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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too much light from oncoming vehicles at night

The Managers of I.C.B.C vehicle inspection compliance reall y need to give their heads a shake

And pay attention to the standing B.C. M.V. act regulations

see a copy of the e mail sent to them and the Highways aminister

From: BJ
To: Highways.Minister@gems3.gov.bc.ca ; rich coleman ; ICBC stds
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:19 PM

Subject: how safety standards are set for parking lamps

The B.C M.V act regulation below sets out the maximum number of parking lamps in the safety regulation standard

And is actually B.C. Highway safety Law

Parking lamps

4.10 (1) A vehicle may be equipped with 2 parking lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle, that are capable of displaying only white or amber light.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2.]

Either a Bulb from a automotive store or or other supplier that falls in the area or # 1157 # 1157NA series 2357NA

set the maximum candlepower allowed in the regulations

We are allowed 2 of amber color or 2 of white color.

Legally No other bulbs or lamps are allowed to operate in the front parking lamp operations Regulations,

Any additional lamps allowed in the inspection, Contradicts the safety intent of the safety regulation # 4.10.1

Any other lamps installed That of a greater Candle power than the above bulbs that are operated must be treated seperatly

as added lamps or Driving lamps and must be controlled under that regulations intent

The only exception would be additional DRL lamps

other than the Type that operate in the low beam,

And for safety unless these operate as or in the parking lamps

MUST BE EXTINGUISHED at night to prevent EXCESS

Lighting projected forward from the parking lamps

And become illegal under the safety regulation

The additional parking lamps on the Ford Freestar,

Exceed the required candlepower of the lamp # shown above By 125 X 2 = 250 candela

And are illegal under the M.V Act regulations. Statements are being made By a B.C Licensed Vehicle inspector

RJ
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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Please read the article and visit the weblink
and see the allowable light allowed in the regulation
and the additional light that is not required on the vehicle

candlepower (cp.)
a unit used for measuring the light-radiating capacity of a lamp or other light source. One candlepower represents the radiating capacity of a light with the intensity of one "international candle," or about 0.981 candela as now defined. Since 1948 the candela has been the official SI unit of light intensity, and the term "candlepower" now means a measurement of light intensity in candelas, just as "voltage" means a measurement of electric potential in volts..

From the link below

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictC.html

So based on above information,

1 candlepower = 0.981 candela

Proper park lamp Replacement Bulbs are 2.25 candlepower in the park filament portion of the bulb

or 0.981X 2.25 = 2.207 Candela each bulb
X 2 bulbs one L.H and one R.H. = 4.414 candela

Which is safety Regulated Under the M.V act regulations for the Vehicles front parking lamps This was supplied on the vehicle in Amber Color and really easy to see.
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However 2 more white lights are supplied in the lower bumper and are tied too and operate with the lamps above.

These are 125 candela X 2 = 250 candela more than allowed or 250 divided by the figure of 4.414
which is 56.63 times more Light than allowed in the B.C. Motor Vehicle safety regulations 4.10

even 50% of this non required light would be an insult to any the safety regulations

its No wonder we have so many vehicles on the highways that are making our night driving more difficult,

and this complaint is only related to park lamps,

Have a nice day an safe motoring to you and yours
BJ
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Robert Johnson,

You are really "singin' the blues" over this whole light situation.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Perhaps sunglasses are a possible solution?
 
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