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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Oh wow, so yea, definately need more than just springs are gonna be needed. Looks like I'm staying at stoco ride height for awhile (I won't justify that kind of money til the truck can't do what I want it to).
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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What is said 'stupid' use of coil spacers?
I was going to use them because I found them from the broncograveyard for a good bit cheaper than coils.
Plus I could re use them in the future if the lift kit i'm looking at doesn't level as well as lift.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Using hard spacers to lift the truck; using them to hold a collapsed spring up; using them to try to make the springs carry more weight...

I'm using soft spacers (they don't concentrate the load on the spring) inside F250 coils to hold my truck at the stock height with the extra weight of the bumper & winch to maintain the space for the larger tires.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Would the daystar spacers be hard spacers? I'm guessing so.
I also want to go with the spacers not only for the price but the fact that they are 2 inch spacers and the coils are only 1.5 inches.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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I've heard that if I use f250 springs on my f150 2wd it will level the truck out. Is there any truth in that? also I would need the new arms and all to get a descent alignment right?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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IDK what spacers you're considering, but they're probably polyurethane rubber if Daystar makes them. Hard spacers are solid metal, like twist lifters or spreader bolts. They lock out at least one full coil of the spring, causing FEWER coils to support the weight, and causing the spring wire to bend where it touches the lifter. The full-circle rubber spacer in my pic doesn't concentrate the flex, and still allows that coil to work & bear load.

But the size of the spacer isn't the issue - it's the EFFECT it has on the angles of the suspension arms. If it pushes only one part of the suspension further away from the frame (relative to stock), then it's bad. To keep the angles right, you have to push the WHOLE suspension the same distance away. Mine is only maintaining stock ride height (other than the ~2" tire lift), so I haven't changed any alignment angles, and I had the truck aligned right after I put them in.

No matter HOW you do it (spacers, coils, arms, blocks...), if you lift a TTB/TIB truck, AND you want the handling/tire wear to remain the way Ford designed it, you NEED a lift system. If you don't care about tires or handling, you can do whatever you want.
 

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve83
No matter HOW you do it (spacers, coils, arms, blocks...), if you lift a TTB/TIB truck, AND you want the handling/tire wear to remain the way Ford designed it, you NEED a lift system. If you don't care about tires or handling, you can do whatever you want.
Thanks for the info, looks like my 2wd is staying where it's at until it can't do what I want, as always you>the man, Steve.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...ers-black.html
these.
These and the 31's will only be on the truck for a few months..I hope. Then I'm getting a full lift.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve83
No matter HOW you do it (spacers, coils, arms, blocks...), if you lift a TTB/TIB truck, AND you want the handling/tire wear to remain the way Ford designed it, you NEED a lift system. If you don't care about tires or handling, you can do whatever you want.
Sorry, but this is simply not true at all. There are thousands of us out there running leveling coils with either stock camber bushings or aftermarket, with no lift kit and our trucks handle great and tire wear is normal.

I know you know this is true from your FSB days. Not sure why you keep saying otherwise.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JBG
Maintains factory ride characteristics.
What a worthless claim. But note how careful they are NOT to make any claim about handling, alignment, or tire wear. ...because they can't.
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These and the 31's will only be on the truck for a few months..I hope. Then I'm getting a full lift.
So why waste the money & effort? Just leave it alone for now and you'll have $110 more to spend on the lift system.
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Not sure why you keep saying otherwise.
Because I believe otherwise.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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I want to see how it looks duh.
Plus it will be a birthday present....don't hate.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve83
What a worthless claim. But note how careful they are NOT to make any claim about handling, alignment, or tire wear. ...because they can't.So why waste the money & effort? Just leave it alone for now and you'll have $110 more to spend on the lift system. Because I believe otherwise.
Well this is a perfect example of how what someone believes to be true isnt always the actual truth.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Only one way to find out for sure.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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Well this is a perfect example of how what someone believes to be true isnt always the actual truth.
So you're finally accepting that YOUR beliefs aren't actually true?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:04 AM
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So you're finally accepting that YOUR beliefs aren't actually true?
I don't BELIEVE anything, I know. I have the setup I am advocating. I know it will work. You're pretty much basing your opinion off of...nothing.
 
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