Pre-1997 Models

1990 clutch pedal

Old Aug 7, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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OK, get under the dash and push the clutch pedal and you will see how much lateral movement it has due to the clutch bracket being worn. I have replaced enough of these to tell you exactly what is wrong with your truck!! Plus I don't need to see it to know. If you doubt me, search my past posts and see how much I help people just from seeing their problem in print. Experience is everything. And because just about all 1990 manual trans trucks have the M5OD trans, the clutch arm Steve83 is talking about doesn't apply.
 

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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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I'm goin with you on this one bronc, the movement is not a whole lot, maybe 1/8 to 1/4 inch sideways when i press the clutch.
Should I get the whole bracket thing for 150 from lmc or something else?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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The aluminum bracket assy is what is needed to fix it. My cost at the dealer where I worked was about 100 or 120 bucks about 5 years ago, so I think that 150 is reasonable, unless you can find a good one at the junkyard. Also, check other sources for parts. I just got a 70 F100 and have gotten about 5 catalogs for parts with varying prices. Try MACs antique auto parts. They seem to have good prices.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbronc
I have replaced enough of these to tell you exactly what is wrong with your truck!! Plus I don't need to see it to know. If you doubt me, search my past posts and see how much I help people just from seeing their problem in print.
Wow.
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Experience is everything.
Wowzers.
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And because all 1990 manual trans trucks have the M5OD trans...
...except those with one of the ZF models (which are both sometimes called M5OD-HD, but are totally different from the Mazda M5OD-R2 used in fullsize trucks) or the BW T19 which was used past '92.

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...the clutch arm Steve83 is talking about doesn't apply.
If you had bothered to look thru those pics & their captions, you'd know that the lever I mentioned is used on all '80-96 fullsize Ford trucks with manual trans. But you don't need to look at it to know - you have experience.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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Honestly steve you have not helped one bit, Bronc has, I'm not sure what you were trying to show in that last picture you posted? I know I have an M5OD-R2 and I know that putting a shifter boot on reduces noise..I just put mine back on today..
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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That post wasn't directed at you - as the quotes indicate, I was replying to bigbronc.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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I stand corrected. Kids, don't drink and post. And Steve, why did you delete the post with all those helpful pics? The ZF is based off the old granny gear trannies like the Borg Warner T10 or the NP 435. The M in M5OD stands for MAZDA, so I don't know where the heck that M5OD-HD comes from. Worked for Ford dealer for 13 years and never heard of such a thing, even in manual trans schools. Wow!
 

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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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I think he neab the ZF is referred to as a M5OD-HD for the fact that it is a 5 speed but heavier duty that the R2, maybe not I could be completely wrong on that one.
Question for you both, IF there is nothing broken on the pedal bracketry and it only moves that small amount could I get just the bushings are replace them?
Would doing that get me the pedal back?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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I would suspect that you will need more than bushings, but you will have to inspect it closer. Mark the position and remove the actuator arm from the right hand side of the clutch pedal. This is the piece that actually pushes the master cylinder rod. On that note, if the rod bushing is toast, that could also cause your concern. Either way, you will have to inspect further. If the bracket is worn, you will be able to tell. The ones I've replaced were very noticeable. Oh yeah, it will also move in opposite directions on each end of the clutch pedal assy. Thus, the pedal goes toward the firewall while the other end goes away. This is why the bracket wears out.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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I really am not sure what all I need to look for, This whole clutch pedal thing is making me feel retarded. I will however take a good look at it later today and do what you said. This whole halfassed pedal didn't bother me until I started grinding gears again so I'm willing to do what it takes now.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbronc
The M in M5OD stands for MAZDA,
Nope - it stands for Manual. However, the M5OD-R2 is a Mazda tranny.

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I think he neab the ZF is referred to as a M5OD-HD for the fact that it is a 5 speed but heavier duty that the R2,
That is correct. However, it's more commonly referred to as a ZF5, with submodels - S5-42 and S5-47.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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I just realized my major typo in that, I'm not sure what I even meant to type.
 
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