I have a 1995 F150 Eddie Bauer and the the temp gauge and oil pressure gauge both dont function. I have verified this. I am wanting to take a F250 gauge cluster w/ tach and put it in my F150 that is w/out tach. As far as I know 94-96 F150s and F250s were the exact same body just different axles chassis molding and engine options. Does anyone have any experience doing this, know anyone who has done this? Am I reaching for the stars in thinking this is an option?

 

They're identical, except for the wire looms behind the instrument cluster. You may have to monkey around and run a seperate wire for the tach, and figure out which wire is which in the loom for each function in the cluster, but it is doable......

 

I believe you'll find it to be plug & play. The harness is set up to handle a cluster w/ or w/o a Tach. As long as you're going mechanical speedo to Mech. or electronic to electronic, Loosing both gauges is unusual. So you grounded both leads w/ no result? Occasionally, after installing the new cluster, your oil gauge will read low, because the resistance rating of the oil pickup is slightly different, so grab the pick up too.

 

92-93 interchange
94-96 interchange

important, any guage cluster will work from a 92-96/7 F-series/Bronco but the 92-93, 94-95 and 96 all have different positions for such items like check engine light, brake light, etc. these go with each groups dash surround. but u can phyically swap a 92 guage cluster into a 96, just some of the lights wont match. This also goes for tach and non tach, it is pre-wired from the factory for either.

here is a link to a small write up on the subject:
http://www.olderfseries.net/forum/vi...hp?f=61&t=5273
also feel free to join the forum if u like the content

 

so would u half to get the plugs or conectors from the dash that the gauge cluster with the tach comes out of to put in the one with no tach ??

 

The plugs and connectors are all there whether it has a tach or not

Start with basics: WHAT MODEL YEAR IS THE F250 DONOR? We cannot give an accurate answer with half the data.

 

And to throw another wrinkle in the '93+ Broncs had a 4wheel abs light which I believe is different than the just rear ABS Fseries.

Adrianspeeder

 

The Broncos use the same ABS light as the F-series, but I have identified a significant change in '96 F150 tach cluster internal wiring that makes swapping them tricky. I don't have all the details yet, but I'm working on it...

Anyway - we have to know what year the F250 is. In the mean time, read these captions:

 

When I get around to fixin' my '95, I'll take some pictures of the clusters I've collected now.



Adrianspeeder

 

I have already done one swap myself on my 94 f-150. I took the cluster from what was supposed to be a 94 lightning and installed it. they were both 4x4 and I think extended cab, with 5.8l and automatic w/tach. I am assuming by coming as close to my original conditions I was doing good. the only difference between clusters was my old one was green illumination and the new one gave of a different color. So the changed psom fixed my shifting problem (which was the only problem) but right after my 4x4 lights went whacko and began flipping out intermittently mostly when something was being turned on like the lights. So now I am gonna send off my old one and have it repaired at a place in Florida, for $150. I think it is worth it to simply have it repaired with a warranty instead of messing with an e-bay item or an impossible to find used one from a junk yard. The clusters with tach have been nearly impossible to find. I have looked through 50 vehicles and only found 2, they were either missing or the regular cluster.

The place to have the cluster repaired is: DNA Speedometers Inc., Tampa FL

 

No such thing as a 4WD Lightning, except maybe the ONE Lightning Bronco built for a Ford exec. But it hasn't been parted out yet... What's the highest speed marked on the PSOM face?I have several for $40-130 depending on what you want. Read these captions:

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But if that's a L PSOM, I might swap you even...

 

Thanks Steve. Ya I figured it was not a lightning. The only thing that gave the salvage yard the idea that it was a lightning was the shaved and color matched painted bumpers and grill. The main difference between the gauges that I had was that these had a redline on the tach, and the needles were orange as apposed to being clear. I haven't yet tracked down the numbers to see if there really is any difference.

I discovered changing out the speedometer instead of the cluster works and that the transmission and engine size have no bearing on what speedometer or PSOM is installed. Just calibration.

I took out the cluster that I got from the (supposed) lightning. I got another cluster from a truck without tach and had a manual trans instead of the E4OD for $42 at the local salvage yard. I swapped the Speed and PSOM with my original cluster (have 3 clusters now) straight across. Really easy for anyone trying this. Cleaned up the original cluster and re-installed it. Everything works great, good shift, good speed, LED works like it should and the 4x4 lights stopped flickering. The best part is the Odometer now says 85k instead of 225k, LOL.

Ok so the secondary reason for taking the surreal lightning cluster out was my 4x4 lights were flickering and I had intermittent 4x4 until the switch quit working all together.

While re-installing my cluster I disconnected my battery and did all the maintenance on the charge system as well. When reconnecting my 4x4 was working like it should. This is kind of a hi-jack, but after a while the 4x4 indicator lights will flicker both on the switch and on the dash. I will make a new post for this. So anyway it quit flickering, but after test driving I noticed them flicker once, so this problem isn't fixed. I have looked and found no one else with this problem, and I am kind of stumped when it comes to the GEM and the PCM. Any ideas? let me know if we can start a new post for this most likely separate issue.

 

There's no advantage to starting a new thread - might as well keep it here.

'92-96 trucks don't use orange needles - strictly white. Either someone painted them orange, or swapped in orange needles from an '87-91 cluster.

The flickering lights sounds like a bad t-case, a bad ESOF switch, a bad ESOF module, or bad wiring in the t-case circuits. There is no GEM in these trucks, and the PCM (EEC) has nothing to do with the t-case lights or operation. Read this caption & the links in it:

 

thanks Steve, I am starting to see the possibilities of problems with the t-case and components after looking at your info for only a couple of moments. So looks like I got some more testing to do.

Here is the link to the new thread: https://www.f150online.com/forums/pr...s-flicker.html

should shed a little more info on the subject. Something i forgot to mention in there is how did disconnect the shift control and the lights still would flicker in the dash but not on the control (thank god, because I already think my truck might be possessed) :-)

 

That suggests the problem is in the wiring between the cluster & ESOF switch, or inside the cluster.