Melted inner wheel well liner
Melted inner wheel well liner
victim: 95 F250 4x2 460 4.10 rear, flowmaster cat back exhaust.
I pulled my car trailer with Jeep on it to work (25 miles each way) today. When I got there I noticed the inner fenderwell was melted on the right side. While driving it I had no power (less than my old f150 with a 302 and 3.08 gears) and it was running warm (on the a of normal). I used my laser temp gun and the exhaust pipe temp going into the cat was 100 degrees hotter than coming out of the cat. The manifolds were over 500 degrees, I am thinking I have a clogged cat and am planning on gutting it and removing the pulley from the smog pump. am I wrong with my diagnosis? what should I do?
I pulled my car trailer with Jeep on it to work (25 miles each way) today. When I got there I noticed the inner fenderwell was melted on the right side. While driving it I had no power (less than my old f150 with a 302 and 3.08 gears) and it was running warm (on the a of normal). I used my laser temp gun and the exhaust pipe temp going into the cat was 100 degrees hotter than coming out of the cat. The manifolds were over 500 degrees, I am thinking I have a clogged cat and am planning on gutting it and removing the pulley from the smog pump. am I wrong with my diagnosis? what should I do?
victim: 95 F250 4x2 460 4.10 rear, flowmaster cat back exhaust.
I pulled my car trailer with Jeep on it to work (25 miles each way) today. When I got there I noticed the inner fenderwell was melted on the right side. While driving it I had no power (less than my old f150 with a 302 and 3.08 gears) and it was running warm (on the a of normal). I used my laser temp gun and the exhaust pipe temp going into the cat was 100 degrees hotter than coming out of the cat. The manifolds were over 500 degrees, I am thinking I have a clogged cat and am planning on gutting it and removing the pulley from the smog pump. am I wrong with my diagnosis? what should I do?
I pulled my car trailer with Jeep on it to work (25 miles each way) today. When I got there I noticed the inner fenderwell was melted on the right side. While driving it I had no power (less than my old f150 with a 302 and 3.08 gears) and it was running warm (on the a of normal). I used my laser temp gun and the exhaust pipe temp going into the cat was 100 degrees hotter than coming out of the cat. The manifolds were over 500 degrees, I am thinking I have a clogged cat and am planning on gutting it and removing the pulley from the smog pump. am I wrong with my diagnosis? what should I do?

tranny temp was around 180 (E4OD) I was not towing in OD (couldn't if I tried).
Is there something I am not seeing?
The other reason I want to stop using the smog pump is because it sounds like there are a bunch of marbles in it. I would rather not replace it if I am going to gut the cat anyway.
Is there something I am not seeing?
The other reason I want to stop using the smog pump is because it sounds like there are a bunch of marbles in it. I would rather not replace it if I am going to gut the cat anyway.
Last edited by bpm4x4; Jul 26, 2009 at 12:11 AM.
I talked to a friend today and he told me his did the same thing (but he was stuck in the mud) and it is common when you work that 460 hard. I also learned that the later year 460s had been detuned to try to meet emissions.
I am going to replace my radiator and fan clutch, and flush out the block and see what happens.
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I recommend you STOP damaging your truck & start putting everything back the way it should be. Remember how well it ran years ago? Wrecking the converter won't bring that back - it can only make it worse.
And converters don't CAUSE engine problems; they're VICTIMS of engine problems. So by removing the cat, you haven't fixed anything - the root problem still exists, and will continue doing damage to the truck the more you ignore/mask it.
Start diagnosing the rich condition. It's probably something simple like a leaking FPR or bad ECT.
And converters don't CAUSE engine problems; they're VICTIMS of engine problems. So by removing the cat, you haven't fixed anything - the root problem still exists, and will continue doing damage to the truck the more you ignore/mask it.
Start diagnosing the rich condition. It's probably something simple like a leaking FPR or bad ECT.
I recommend you STOP damaging your truck & start putting everything back the way it should be. Remember how well it ran years ago? Wrecking the converter won't bring that back - it can only make it worse.
And converters don't CAUSE engine problems; they're VICTIMS of engine problems. So by removing the cat, you haven't fixed anything - the root problem still exists, and will continue doing damage to the truck the more you ignore/mask it.
Start diagnosing the rich condition. It's probably something simple like a leaking FPR or bad ECT.
And converters don't CAUSE engine problems; they're VICTIMS of engine problems. So by removing the cat, you haven't fixed anything - the root problem still exists, and will continue doing damage to the truck the more you ignore/mask it.
Start diagnosing the rich condition. It's probably something simple like a leaking FPR or bad ECT.
You must not have read the above post saying that I may replace the cat later. I know it is getting hot, so I am getting ready to change the radiator and fan clutch. i may also take the pulley off the smog pump for all the happy folks here.

I have asked for help, and you have lectured me like I am an idiot, thanks for the one line that was actually worth reading. I will check the fuel pressure, and the temp sensor as soon as I can.
The problem is fixed
There was a wire stuck in the spout connector up there by the test port, I have no idea why it was in there (I did not pay much attention to it, I thought it was an antenna for the remote door lock). Now I have a ton of power, and the temp gauge behaved, and the floor stayed cool.

After 4 other owners, this truck has the right owner.
There was a wire stuck in the spout connector up there by the test port, I have no idea why it was in there (I did not pay much attention to it, I thought it was an antenna for the remote door lock). Now I have a ton of power, and the temp gauge behaved, and the floor stayed cool.


After 4 other owners, this truck has the right owner.



I either need to take care of this, or sell it.
So no: I wasn't treating you like an idiot.