408W stroker problem: CPS sensor on balancer not compatible, help
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408W stroker problem: CPS sensor on balancer not compatible, help
I have a 1996 Bronco which originally was a 351W with Mass Air.
Currently the rebuild is done:
Edelbrock EFI manifold
AFR185 heads
Pro Magnum 1.6 rockers
arp studs/bolts
Eagle forged stroker kit, 408W
dual 61mm Throttle bodies
Pro-M 75mm bullet
80 lb/hr injectors (I think)
200+ fuel pump
Comp Cams custom grind.
Basani cat back and Y pipe
FMS S/S shorties
K&N Aircharger
The problem is the Pioneer Neutral balancer has no provision for the crankshaft position sensor and I need a 0 weighted balancer for the Stroker kit since it's internally balanced.
Anyone have a solution...there are two possibilities we've come up with....drill a mount for the CPS in the 0 balancer and rebalance or take a stock 50oz balancer and shave it until it's neutral....neither of the methods I'd say are 'nice' but hopefully you guys have a better solution.
Thanks...sorry my first post is a question like this.
Chris
Currently the rebuild is done:
Edelbrock EFI manifold
AFR185 heads
Pro Magnum 1.6 rockers
arp studs/bolts
Eagle forged stroker kit, 408W
dual 61mm Throttle bodies
Pro-M 75mm bullet
80 lb/hr injectors (I think)
200+ fuel pump
Comp Cams custom grind.
Basani cat back and Y pipe
FMS S/S shorties
K&N Aircharger
The problem is the Pioneer Neutral balancer has no provision for the crankshaft position sensor and I need a 0 weighted balancer for the Stroker kit since it's internally balanced.
Anyone have a solution...there are two possibilities we've come up with....drill a mount for the CPS in the 0 balancer and rebalance or take a stock 50oz balancer and shave it until it's neutral....neither of the methods I'd say are 'nice' but hopefully you guys have a better solution.
Thanks...sorry my first post is a question like this.
Chris
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Is that a crankshaft position sensor or is it the misfire sensor? AFAIK the 96 351W still used the PIP sensor in the distributor for crankshaft position. The sensor on the front of the block is the misfire sensor.
Contact the balance manufacturer, or several other balancer manufacturers and see what solutions they can provide. You will not be the first to ask this question.
Contact the balance manufacturer, or several other balancer manufacturers and see what solutions they can provide. You will not be the first to ask this question.
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Could be the misfire sensor actually, I am going off what the builder told me....he said only a few years have this setup.
Is a misfire sensor something that can be eliminated or worked around? The average driver may not know if they are missing but anyone with half brain should be able to tell
I will try Pioneer (the balancer maker) and see.
Thanks
Chris
Is a misfire sensor something that can be eliminated or worked around? The average driver may not know if they are missing but anyone with half brain should be able to tell
I will try Pioneer (the balancer maker) and see.
Thanks
Chris
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From: Copley, Ohio
The misfire sensor is an integral part of the OBD-II control system and is VERY sensitive to variances in timing between power strokes. Some re-built engines will throw mis-fire codes because the manufacturing variances are higher than factory spec. Short of changing your PCM out to an earlier version and rewiring your powertrain harness to match, you cannot work around it, you;ll have to work with it.