What are we REALLY doing by allowing unfettered border crossing? Our country's citizens desire to remove most controls to immigrations or visitation - Hell, it's more difficult for me to get back into the US from Canada than criminals to get into the US from Mexico. Why are we letting our "leaders" do this?

 

Preaching to the choir.

 

I also recently returned from Canada and had the same reaction.

I know why our 'leaders' are allowing us to be over-run, and it comes down to political power.

As to why we are letting our 'leaders' do this to us, that's a tough one. I guess most people are ignorant of the scale, or of how much power and wealth is being centralized in Washington DC.

 

Only in America. The big problem now is Central Americans sending their kids to the border and you guess what happens from there.

 

It's not just our leaders - it's us...the voting population (whether they vote legally or are democrats ). "We" have this problem and we have nobody strong enough to do the right thing. I believe there is little hope.

 

^ I second that. Cochran getting re-elected, completely via Democrats hopping over and stealing the election (because the establishment Republicans asked them to), last week was a sizable blow IMO.

 

What tick's me off is now it becomes the U.S. taxpayer's that have to pay for all of this. Maybe we can start a new "Trail of Tear's" that end's in Alaska...send them up there on a reservation.

 

It's easy to bash the democrats, because they ARE doing major damage to our country. The republicans are culpable as well. There is a political class, determined to retain the power they have and gain more when possible. This political class exploits the weaknesses of our citizens, and uses the brute force of the government to silence anyone who can truthfully decent.

We are essentially powerless to stop what is happening at our borders, or any other action our political class "leaders" choose to do. We can choose to rebel, but that would require us to break laws, giving legitimacy to the use of government brute force. We can try to educate, but society is placated with useless dribble. Not enough people pay enough attention to know how much freedom the government is taking from us.

To many, this is all happening so slowly, they don't even see what is happening. To some of us, this is happening so fast, it's scary. I didn't really start paying attention until 9/11/01.Government has grown substantially in that time, to an extreme over the past six years. We have become less free, and much more complacent since.

 

I think the "Republicans" are the worst. I hate the Dems, but at least they're united, all on the same page, and actually do what (for the most part) their constituents ask them to do. Ours just lie to us, ignore us, work with the libs, do everything we don't want them to do, fight and campaign against each other, etc. and it's all such BS.

 

Libertarian for the win

 

Actually, all the Libertarians are doing is taking votes away from Republicans and weakening both parties. I like a lot of Libertarian values, etc. and could easily identify with them, but for the time being, they're mostly a negative. If only we could swap 150 million people over to Libertarian all at once . . .

 

I'm with you - KMac, but I have to vote my conscious, ya know? Just seems voting for either of the major parties = voting for the same thing: Compromise. Compromise can be evil - the worst. Compromise allows VERY BAD ideas to be passed along with some GOOD ideas. It's so much better for Congress/President/Judicial branch to do NOTHING than to feel accomplished by allowing partial terrible ideas made into law, just to have a few good measures passed.

 

I know what you mean. If only principal and conscience mattered . . . The Repubs are the lesser of two evils (by a large margin, but the gap is shrinking every day), and not voting for them is just splitting the party in two and guaranteeing that the Dems win every election. We're "alright" for now, and I hope to pick up some Congressional seats this year, but a fully divided party is coming soon and I think it'll be ugly. Ugly enough to lose 5+ straight presidential elections.

 

Just shoots a big hole in my optimism. Really does. I hate to be glum, but I cannot see fraudulent voters EVER allowing a fiscally-conservative, PRO-freedom (even at the cost of individual safety) candidate.

My political philosophy as said by Henry George:

"It is not the business of government to make men virtuous or religious, or to preserve the fool from the consequences of his own folly. Government should be repressive no further than is necessary to secure liberty by protecting the equal rights of each from aggression on the part of others, and the moment governmental prohibitions extend beyond this line they are in danger of defeating the very ends they are intended to serve."

 

I love that quote.

Don't worry about being a Debbie Downer. I said for a long time that this last presidential election was our very last "real" shot at turning this country around. And I still believe that, so I envision the **** hittin the fan in the next twenty years. Our entire way of life will change. Our dollar will no longer be the "World Currency" and our economy will collapse. We won't be able to pay the $40 TRILLION of commitments that are required, by law, to be paid out.

It'll be AWESOME. And I'm gonna be the generation paying for it.