Media coverage of gas prices going up

Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by serotta
The whole attitude about gas has changed in the past 10 or 15 years. I can remember when gas went over 2 bucks a gallon for awhile. Everyone was buying locking gas caps and siphoning gas became a new crime target area.

People were talking about selling their cars or drastically cutting back on driving if it went over 2.50

Now with gas hovering at 4 bucks, I don't have a locking gas cap and I haven't heard a single peep about gas thefts. People are driving more not less. I still see gas guzzlers all over the neighborhood. Back then I had three cars, now I have five and none of them are stingy with gas. I'm nowhere near rich, we've just repositioned our priorities and spend more of our disposable income on gas.

Just saying values are changing....... screw the MSM if you ain't made up your mind now you certainly shouldn't be letting them shape your opinions.
Heard on the radio yesterday that gasoline use is down 5% from last year. People are definitely driving less. And that doesn't include the drop from 2007-2008
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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This is the reason to point it out.

A lot of voters do none of their own research, and only have the attention span of a nat.
They listen to sound bites and headlines from the talking heads at the MSM, and use that to make a decision on voting.

Why do you think Buffet's sound bite on how he pays less in taxes than his secretary got so much millage ?
People are in too much of a hurry to to get back to playing Angry Birds or Words with Friends on their phone to do any actual reading or fact checking.
And what makes it worse is those who do actually listen to the sound bites often only hear a small amount of the information and go nuts over it. Remember the no fat diets about 15 years ago. Everyone was crazy about eating no fat, when all of the research, even at the time was suggesting a low fat diet, they are not the same thing. Look at the fads that the idiots engage in mostly they are "disproven" a few years later, but if you actually look at the resources of the time they were disproven at the time. For the longest time eggs got a bad rap, because the yolks had a high level of LDL. What people were missing is that the whites have a high level of HDL which balance the LDL. I learned that before eggs became "bad" for you. I, and I'm sure most of the people on this site, could go on and on listing fads that become wildly popular only to find out people didn't have the whole story. Many of those fads had the whole story out there, it's just people didn't care to research, like you said, to find the whole story.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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I still hold hope that prices will be down to somthing like $2.50 sometime within the next year. While I like Obama, I think he is making a big mistake by not pushing a reasonable ammount of drilling in the US.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by blu3expy
I still hold hope that prices will be down to somthing like $2.50 sometime within the next year. While I like Obama, I think he is making a big mistake by not pushing a reasonable ammount of drilling in the US.
$2.50 a gallon?!?! No way thats gonna happen unless your messiah is really the messiah
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Sucks I have two v8's now. Before I had two 4 cyl and one v8.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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I remember always going to the station and getting a dollars worth of regular, an attendant pumped it for you too.

Today if you asked for a dollars worth of gas they'd take you dollar, fart, turn around and walk off.
They gave you a fart? Those a-holes ripped me off! - Og
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Heard on the radio yesterday that gasoline use is down 5% from last year. People are definitely driving less. And that doesn't include the drop from 2007-2008
Hey Frank, we might both be right. (Boy ain't that a scary thought) This article claims people have been driving less in the past 6 months.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ess/51716466/1
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blu3expy
I still hold hope that prices will be down to somthing like $2.50 sometime within the next year. While I like Obama, I think he is making a big mistake by not pushing a reasonable ammount of drilling in the US.
Well, you do like the Hope and Change platform....

Hope for the price of fuel to change, just don't hold your breath while you are doing it.

Your man is helping you out by getting in bed with another South American country for drilling for oil....

Why is it this administration thinks it is a good idea to send tax payers money to South America for them to drill for oil ?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCULLY
Well, you do like the Hope and Change platform....

Hope for the price of fuel to change, just don't hold your breath while you are doing it.

Your man is helping you out by getting in bed with another South American country for drilling for oil....

Why is it this administration thinks it is a good idea to send tax payers money to South America for them to drill for oil ?

Because he is an IDIOT! 'nuff said.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCULLY
...Why is it this administration thinks it is a good idea to send tax payers money to South America for them to drill for oil ?
Look up George Soros and his investments and campaign contributions, Petrobras, and what country Obama has given billions so they can develop their oil infrastructure.

Hints:
-Soros gives LOTS of money to people that have (D) after their name.
-He has invested quite a bit in Petrobras.
-Petrobras is the national oil corporation of Brazil.
-Obama gave billions to Brazil for oil development.

Connect the dots...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 05:46 AM
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It's not a shortage right now - it's actually a surplus. However, the oil companies are exporting refined product to China where they can make more money on it, artificially creating a domestic shortage.

This one belongs squarely on the shoulders of the oil companies, not necessarily Obama. We have PLENTY of oil, folks.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
Look up George Soros and his investments and campaign contributions, Petrobras, and what country Obama has given billions so they can develop their oil infrastructure.

Hints:
-Soros gives LOTS of money to people that have (D) after their name.
-He has invested quite a bit in Petrobras.
-Petrobras is the national oil corporation of Brazil.
-Obama gave billions to Brazil for oil development.

Connect the dots...
I know about the "loan" that is 8% or nothing.

I was referring to the most recent one with Mexico.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by serotta
Hey Frank, we might both be right. (Boy ain't that a scary thought)
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
It's not a shortage right now - it's actually a surplus. However, the oil companies are exporting refined product to China where they can make more money on it, artificially creating a domestic shortage.

This one belongs squarely on the shoulders of the oil companies, not necessarily Obama. We have PLENTY of oil, folks.
Just to correct 2 things.

1. There is no domestic shortage, artificial or real of fuel.

2. Oil companies do not make more per gallon selling fuel to China or any other country than selling domestically. It is sold for market price.
Market Price is set by supply - demand ratio.

Mid 2000's when there was a refining capacity shortage in the US, where do you think oil companies had to get the fuel from ?
Oil companies went and bought it on the open market from whom ever would sell it.
This increased demand, and with a fixed supply, at that moment in time, the price went up.

Oil companies are not "fixing" the price of fuel.

You leave off the every $1.00 increase in a barrel of oil ( Brent crude as the basis ), there is a $ 0.025 increase in the cost of fuel.
Brent oil refines at a different rate when compared to WTI, so the $ 1.00 increase per barrel formula is slightly different when compared to WTI oil price increases.
Brent has gone up $10.00 + in 2012 alone, so straight away a refiner using Brent north Sea has a 0.25 increase in raw material costs.
Going from the recent low in DEC-2008, Brent was at ~ 35.00 / barrel. This week, ~ 123.00 per barrel.
That is an $ 88.00 increase in the raw material costs alone.
88.00 * 0.025 = $ 2.20 increase in fuel costs, not taking into account any demand constraints.

Oil companies make out on the oil that they can refine from their own fields, but this does not fill all the demand they have, so they need to purchase on the open market. 2008 oil companies had losses with oil @ ~ 35.00 / barrel for Brent North Sea ( WTI would be lower yet ).
 
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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for your average Joe "that's me" it's hard to swallow price jumps at the pump of 15 cents from morning to evening. I know they are pumping the same gas they had this morning.. a question for SSCULLY's comment... oil at 35 dollars a barrel and oil at 100 a barrell did not translate into that much of a difference in price at the pump.. percentage wise anyways?
 
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