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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Snopes lies?

Ok, got this in an email and thought it kind of humorus. I have absolutly no idea if it is correct or a fabrication itself. I will let others make that determination if they are interested. If the email is a fabrication, you have to admit it is interesting to say the least.



We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes! Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?



We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of Obama!

In our search for the truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep you got it; Snopes Lied!

Every one of those dockets are there.

So here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barak Obama dockets:

The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.



I went directly to the Supreme Court’s website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking.

Thank You,

I hope you will be much more truthful in the future.

That being said, I'll bet you didn't know this..

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship.

Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly.

Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and on.

Once gain the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

He owed her big time.

All of the requests were denied of course.

They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

The American people mean nothing any longer.

It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?

Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!

Check out these examples:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.a...es/09-8857.htm

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.a...es/09-6790.htm

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.a...les/09-724.htm

If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.

However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. Constitution; by all means, PASS it ON!

There truly is tyranny afoot.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Interesting read, thanks Bluejay!
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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I only had time to check one of the referenced cases, and found this is FUD being put up against snopes, at least in the 1 case I looked up.

This looks like another 'get the population at each others throats' so the voters do not notice what is going on in DC. The Chicago Political machine is being implemented.

The case that I checked, 08-1977 does have the names Kagan & Obama in it, but the reference to the name Obama is the Petitioner, The Real Truth About Obama, Inc.

The case appears to be centered around what constitutes political committee by the Federal Election Campaign Act. They were looking for a similar ruleing to WISCONSIN RIGHT TO LIFE, INC. v. FEC .

The Real Truth About Obama, Inc sought a preliminary and permanent injunction from the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia enjoining the FEC and DOJ from enforcing these rules and "enforcement policy." In addition, the plaintiff was seeking a declaration that the challenged regulations and "enforcement policy" are void and set aside.
Funny, this case does have the two names together, but the Obama reference is against Kagan, not on the same side.

I would actually go as far to say this was a plant by the DNC, to get voters and the population in general at each others throats.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Snopes version...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kagan.asp

This is kind of like the Muslim who also sat on Baptist pew for twenty years.
So, he hatched a cover-up then later produced the birth certificate he had all along?

The simple answer is just sling mud from all directions and hope some of it sticks because either the audience isn't paying attention or they hear what they want to hear and nod in approval.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Snopes version...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kagan.asp

This is kind of like the Muslim who also sat on Baptist pew for twenty years.
So, he hatched a cover-up then later produced the birth certificate he had all along?

The simple answer is just sling mud from all directions and hope some of it sticks because either the audience isn't paying attention or they hear what they want to hear and nod in approval.
Not sure what you said, but I agree.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Not sure what you said, but I agree.
If I can't win you over with 'He's a muslim' maybe the 'he sat on that pew for 20 years listening to hate America sermons' will get you engaged.

I would guess this Congress search for Obama/Kagan, e-mail (send to everyone you know) pre-dates the release of the birth certificate.

If I was Obama, I would have sat on the birth certificate until every detractor of consequence had made fools of themselves, Donald Trump was small potatoes.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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If I can't win you over with 'He's a muslim' maybe the 'he sat on that pew for 20 years listening to hate America sermons' will get you engaged.

I would guess this Congress search for Obama/Kagan, e-mail (send to everyone you know) pre-dates the release of the birth certificate.

If I was Obama, I would have sat on the birth certificate until every detractor of consequence had made fools of themselves, Donald Trump was small potatoes.
You're assuming that it existed all along!

No, sitting on it the way he did just shows what a deceptive, malicious person he is at heart. He should never have played that game, in my opinion.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
You're assuming that it existed all along!

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That just leaves us with the newspaper birth announcment.
This conspiracy predates the Kennedy assassination!
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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That just leaves us with the newspaper birth announcment.
This conspiracy predates the Kennedy assassination!
We all know that was Billie Sol and LBJ.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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I don't know about this particular instance (haven't researched it, yet), but Snopes has a left-leaning bias, no doubt. Just do some reading on the whole Petrobras/Soros/Obama links. They took the word of press releases from the Export-Import bank as gospel without going further, which was a half-truth, essentially.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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I don't know about this particular instance (haven't researched it, yet)...
What is there to research?
The e-mail was launched around Aug 2010 indicating coverup.
Obama produced the birth certificate April 2011.

From Aug to April the e-mail had legs for those so inclined.
Did the Birther conspiracy truely not die last April?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
What is there to research?
The e-mail was launched around Aug 2010 indicating coverup.
Obama produced the birth certificate April 2011.

From Aug to April the e-mail had legs for those so inclined.
Did the Birther conspiracy truely not die last April?
It will NEVER die, Raoul. Not as long as there are fools who believe, as you pointed out, that somehow the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, dreamed up the grand scheme that Mr Obama would one day run for office and that they'd have to make sure he would be "electable". Because of the magnitude of this conspiracy, they (Hawaii) should have their Statehood revoked.

But, back to Snopes: Clearly, if they've published anything that seems to support someone or something that favors the "left", they are obviously a "leftist" publication. They could only be considered "fair and balanced" if they constantly supported the "right".

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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
It will NEVER die, Raoul. Not as long as there are fools who believe, as you pointed out, that somehow the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, dreamed up the grand scheme that Mr Obama would one day run for office and that they'd have to make sure he would be "electable". Because of the magnitude of this conspiracy, they (Hawaii) should have their Statehood revoked.

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Instead of going to the extremes and sounding like the flaming nut jobs you are attempting to put down, how about this scenario: Mom did not know the immigration laws at the time, so mom had the birth announcement placed in the newspaper desiring to have her baby boy be a US citizen. Then had a fake birth certificate made so he could show proof that he was a US citizen so he could enjoy all of the right and privileges that come with being a US citizen. Most people don't know what a real birth certificate looks like much less how to verify one. So the fake one will do just fine. Now it's 40 years later and Obama needs a better copy so the printing press starts up again. I'm sure he has friends that could get him a birth certificate that looks very genuine. I have explained the law on here several times. It doesn't matter whether Obama was born in the US, Kenya, or Russia he is a US citizen at birth and as such, if the SCOTUS ever ruled on the issue I would think they would rule that he meets the definition of a natural born citizen.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
What is there to research?
The e-mail was launched around Aug 2010 indicating coverup.
Obama produced the birth certificate April 2011.

From Aug to April the e-mail had legs for those so inclined.
Did the Birther conspiracy truely not die last April?
Actually Raoul, I was referring to the Kagan representation point. But, yet again, you are looking for a fight. Even though you will deny it.

I gotta admit Raoul, you do sometimes remind me of me back when I blindly supported Bush when he was first elected. Then I became a bookworm.

I may actually have a drink when I see you come out in opposition to any of his policies. If I have missed an instance on the boards, I apologize in advance.

Bluejay is right. For Obama to withhold his birth certificate and then, years later, go *Aha! Here it is fools*, is pretty devious. You can at least admit that.
 

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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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The birth certificate is a fake.
He was born in Kenya.
He is also a muslim.
His first statement upon becoming President was "Where all the white women at?"

Now, go have a drink Frank.
 
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