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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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^^^^"....Feel free to ignore that....." lol

I have my doubts about the viability of a Mormon candidate on the Rep ticket. The Righteous Right of the GOP can't be ignored.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ONELOWF
^^^^"....Feel free to ignore that....." lol

I have my doubts about the viability of a Mormon candidate on the Rep ticket. The Righteous Right of the GOP can't be ignored.
true true lol
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Righteous Right
Righteous my ****.

They are like the **** holes that went around telling all the people to choose Barabas. The religious wrong.
 

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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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No Votes ??? Try unanimous, as in All the democrats on the committee voted for him. That does not happened, more so with the 111th congress on a republican anything. Something is up here.

Whoops! I was meaning to say unanimous! sorry i just think he is the best republican for the general, but the best republican in the field is Gary Johnson, but Fox doesn't like him
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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...<snip>...the best republican in the field is Gary Johnson, but Fox doesn't like him
Gary Johnson is really a RINO, which stands to reason why you think he is the best Republican in the field.
He is not the best republican in the field, maybe the out house, but not the field.

Now if the GOP wants to put up a sacrificial candidate, he would be the one to use.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ONELOWF
^^^^"....Feel free to ignore that....." lol

...<snip>....
Liked that, I was on a coffee kick this AM, and the diarrhea of the keyboard was at work.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Gary Johnson is really a RINO, which stands to reason why you think he is the best Republican in the field.
He is not the best republican in the field, maybe the out house, but not the field.

Now if the GOP wants to put up a sacrificial candidate, he would be the one to use.
I don't see how you come up with that, he's a fiscally conservative governor, the only things he differs on is social issues, just like Ron Paul. Please tell me who your guy is! Oh wait, he's probably not running right now, being Mike Huckabee, Jeb Bush (who is good) or Chris Christie because almost every candidate is bought and paid for except for Ron Paul.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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I don't see how you come up with that, he's a fiscally conservative governor, the only things he differs on is social issues, just like Ron Paul. ...<snip>...
The GOP candidate cannot be part Republican for financial issues, and part Democrat for Social issues.
That makes him RINO. More correctly an independent or moderate trying to run under the GOP heading, just like Huntsman.

Originally Posted by blu3expy
...<snip>...Please tell me who your guy is! Oh wait, he's probably not running right now, being Mike Huckabee, Jeb Bush (who is good) or Chris Christie ...<snip>...
My statements are to point out a democratic leaning person, saying who makes the best Republican candidate is really just going to pick a RINO or moderate / independent.
You might think they would make a good Republican candidate but when it comes down to it, they are not a republican, but a moderate / independent at best, at worst an independent that caucus with the Democrats.
To give an equivalent example, it would be the same as me saying who is the best Democratic candidate for a position... Obviously that person is not going to be much of a democrat, and would not make the best democratic candidate.
They might make a very good candidate, but it would be an independent.

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...<snip>...because almost every candidate is bought and paid for except for Ron Paul.
Sure and we know Obama is not owing anyone payback.

Under qualified UIC professors getting appointments to economic positions, Chicago labor lawyers getting recess appointments to the NLRB, Duplications of Czar positions as no show jobs, Rahm Emanuel swapping his job to the previous mayor of Chicago's brother, so he can be mayor of Chicago ...
No way Obama is not bought and paid for ...

You make it sound as if the only good republican candidate is one that thinks like a democrat on social issues, which will not blend well with being fiscally responsible.
Social issues ( programs ) are the protected crop from the Democrat side, and policy work similar to The New Deal ver 2.0 is a money pit that China's cash ( plus the interest on the note ) keep getting tossed into.
This is not economic policy, it is purchasing votes, just like Obama did in MI.
Still holding to it was for MI, so it was good, but all other companies not based in MI should be stripped of tax benefits that help create organic job growth ( or at the very least, no job contraction ) ?
4 of those 5 tax breaks that you wanted big oil stripped of, JCI is getting, along with the funding from the $ 25B from the DOE ( 2009 ARRP ), so in short JCI is getting more from the fed govt than big oil.
With this as your thought process, you calling the best Republican in the field, or one with good credentials is as warped as a catholic priest talking about sex, it is all from a theoretical view point, no actual implementation experience.
The only thing you can say about a candidate that is not a RINO is they are bought and paid for or stupid. Got any real comments on them, or just what the MSM has said about them, with no back of facts..
 

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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 02:24 AM
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The GOP candidate cannot be part Republican for financial issues, and part Democrat for Social issues.
That makes him RINO. More correctly an independent or moderate trying to run under the GOP heading, just like Huntsman.


My statements are to point out a democratic leaning person, saying who makes the best Republican candidate is really just going to pick a RINO or moderate / independent.
You might think they would make a good Republican candidate but when it comes down to it, they are not a republican, but a moderate / independent at best, at worst an independent that caucus with the Democrats.
To give an equivalent example, it would be the same as me saying who is the best Democratic candidate for a position... Obviously that person is not going to be much of a democrat, and would not make the best democratic candidate.
They might make a very good candidate, but it would be an independent.


Sure and we know Obama is not owing anyone payback.

Under qualified UIC professors getting appointments to economic positions, Chicago labor lawyers getting recess appointments to the NLRB, Duplications of Czar positions as no show jobs, Rahm Emanuel swapping his job to the previous mayor of Chicago's brother, so he can be mayor of Chicago ...
No way Obama is not bought and paid for ...

You make it sound as if the only good republican candidate is one that thinks like a democrat on social issues, which will not blend well with being fiscally responsible.
Social issues ( programs ) are the protected crop from the Democrat side, and policy work similar to The New Deal ver 2.0 is a money pit that China's cash ( plus the interest on the note ) keep getting tossed into.
This is not economic policy, it is purchasing votes, just like Obama did in MI.
Still holding to it was for MI, so it was good, but all other companies not based in MI should be stripped of tax benefits that help create organic job growth ( or at the very least, no job contraction ) ?
4 of those 5 tax breaks that you wanted big oil stripped of, JCI is getting, along with the funding from the $ 25B from the DOE ( 2009 ARRP ), so in short JCI is getting more from the fed govt than big oil.
With this as your thought process, you calling the best Republican in the field, or one with good credentials is as warped as a catholic priest talking about sex, it is all from a theoretical view point, no actual implementation experience.
The only thing you can say about a candidate that is not a RINO is they are bought and paid for or stupid. Got any real comments on them, or just what the MSM has said about them, with no back of facts..
You wasted your time, by everyone I mean everyone including Obama, he says he wants to control wallstreet yet hes in bed with them.

I realize you would automatically think any candidate I liked was a RINO, well how about Mike Huckabee? I have his book! Or Chris Christie? They are not RINO's and you know it. I know they aren't in the race but if they were Perry would be a joke. On a side note I feel bad for Mitt lol.

And guess what? Im christian. Just letting you know that I don't distort anything because of religious views
 

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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 02:29 AM
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And maybe we need an Independent because Bush and Obama sucked, and the Tea party should put up their own person also!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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And maybe we need an Independent because Bush and Obama sucked, and the Tea party should put up their own person also!
Kind of hard for the Tea Party to put anybody up since they are not a true party. They are the conservative/Constitutionalist part of the Republican Party, kind of like the Blue Dog democrats are still part of the Democratic Party. The best the Tea Party can do is support the candidates they like and from what I've seen they are doing that.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blu3expy
....<snip>...
I realize you would automatically think any candidate I liked was a RINO, ....<snip>...
Cart - Horse case here.
It is not automatic due to you picking them that makes them a RINO, you have a democratic slant.
With this as your thought process, how could you objectively pick an actual republican candidate ?
You could very well pick a good independent candidate, that is not what you are suggesting here, had you they would not be called RINOs ( then again these RINOs are trying for the GOP nod ).
Again, it is just as bad as me trying to pick a democratic candidate. It is not going to pair up too well with the party actions.

Originally Posted by blu3expy
....<snip>...well how about Mike Huckabee? I have his book! Or Chris Christie? They are not RINO's and you know it. I know they aren't in the race but if they were Perry would be a joke. On a side note I feel bad for Mitt lol.....<snip>...
Actually I cannot say if they would show any true colors and not turn out to be a RINO, and neither can you. They are not running, so any thoughts on what they would do as a candidate is speculation...
Huckabee had the Clinton pen going when he exiting the governor position, releasing murders and child molesters. I seem to recall this caused him some grief in 2008. Think this is why he kept finishing behind McCain ( think he would feel for a murder and child molester in a US prison ? ).

Chris Christie has some stink attached to him with no bid contract awards, starts to look like what Obama is doing. Think this might not come to the front and we would find out what really went on. Walking out on an election is not a good thing like he did for the questionable actions he was being questioned about. This guy could have some serious skeletons in his closet.

You still have not given any reason for why you say Bachmann is stupid. The democrats might think this due to what the MSM tells them to think without doign their own research.
Who better to understand how the tax system works, and be able to work in economic policy for SMB ( not JCI sized companies for a 150 jobs ) than her ?
Never see the MSM reporting on her knowledge of the tax code (which no other person in the running has this vast knowledge ). No let's report on her pronouncing a word correctly by Webster, and call it wrong, everyone will believe that ( and most democrats do ).
The MSM spinning the story on Melissa Etheridge, most find comfort in faith in troubling times, and I guess if a GOP member suggests this might help, it is automatically a religion - gey thing by the MSM.
Facts be damned, must discount a candidate on misinformed little items, as the MSM cannot discount her credentials to do the job.

You don't even see you are being pushed in a direction by the MSM, and no doing your own research. I have said it time and time again, read and do your own research, you might find something that the MSM is not telling you, or find their "facts" are not exactly presented correctly.
Rachel Maddow is great for this using facts, and inserting words right next to them, that changes the meaning of the facts. I tired by your suggestion watching her 1 night while on the road, and after 7 min I heard 3 misrepresentations of the facts, and turned it off. She is a spin doctor to the end, but you hang on her every word ( again wonder why you pick RINOs, not they are RINOs because you pick them ? ).

Originally Posted by blu3expy
And maybe we need an Independent because Bush and Obama sucked, and the Tea party should put up their own person also!
Independent candidates cannot distance themselves far enough from 1 side or the other to not be a vote splitter.

Suggesting that the tea party group is its own party just shows you believe what the MSM is pumping out.
You really need to turn off the TV and start reading, else suffer the fate in 1984.
The tea party is an activist group that supports candidates, just like the unions do.
If you think the Tea Party needs to put up their own candidate then you must think the union needs to put up one as well.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Who better to understand how the tax system works, and be able to work in economic policy for SMB ( not JCI sized companies for a 150 jobs ) than her ?
SSCULLY how can you be so forgetful? We have one of the Best minds in congress on the tax code.......CHARLIE RANGEL!!!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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SSCULLY how can you be so forgetful? We have one of the Best minds in congress on the tax code.......CHARLIE RANGEL!!!
Yes, how very forgetful of me.
The member of the House Ways and means committee that omitted a non trivial amount of money from rental income on his tax returns.

He helped define the tax codes, why would he know how to complete an individual 1040 correctly..
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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The member of the House Ways and means committee that omitted a non trivial amount of money from rental income on his tax returns.
He managed to omit that income from his taxes for 17 years in a row. Oops.

IMO, he should be in jail for what he did, just like the rest of us would be if we forgot to claim part of our income for 17 years. There was other stuff, too, besides the rent from the offshore condo. I think the Democrat controlled ethics committee chared him with 11 counts.


FWIW, I was home with a cold the day the house voted on Rangel's censure. Got to watch much of the debate on CSPAN. Watching some of the Dems defend Rangel was sickening.

The lines of defense were these:

1) He made some (small) mistakes, but we should look the other way because he served in Korea and has been in the house for 40 years.
2) Other members of the house have done worse things and not been censured, so it's not fair (and possibly racist) to censure Charlie.
3) Rangel was being unfairly and maliciously targetted by political enemies, some of whom may have had racism in their hearts.


Ultimately, he got a slap on the wrist by a lame duck Dem congress, who only rushed the penalty phase because they wanted his punishment to be administred while his party was in charge (this after his party dragged out the investigation for YEARS). After the censure vote, Pelosi sped through the reading of the censure in a monotone, devoid of any sense of condemndation. Oh, and the wording of the 'censure' itself was as mild as possible.

Then Rangel asked for the floor, which he was given by the speaker. Rangel offered up a brief and half hearted apology, then proceeded to rant and rave about how he should not have been censured.


It's episodes like the Rangel incident which really cause American's to distrust their government.
 

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